Working USB-Sticks

Working USB-Sticks Hi all, I get only one of my USB-Sticks working with Dockstar and Debian. All other work fine during installation but won't boot. Instead the pogo-systems starts. (by the way: How can I shutdown the pogo-system?) . Is this a know issue or can you tell me which USB-Sticks are working? For me its the transcend JetFlash 8 GB which is running. Greetings, Thomas http://forum.doozan.com/read.php?2,1915,1915#msg-1915 Mon, 20 May 2013 02:16:38 -0400 Phorum 5.2.18 http://forum.doozan.com/read.php?2,1915,11751#msg-11751 Re: Working USB-Sticks http://forum.doozan.com/read.php?2,1915,11751#msg-11751 Lexar S73 16GB USB3 (LJDS73-16GASBNA) - cold/warm boot working.

The Lexar USB3 are much faster than my other USB2 sticks. I can recommend these.

Kingston DT101G2-64GB - does not warm boot. Cold boots fine. This drive is much slower than the Lexar USB3's.]]> johnnyBrandom Debian Thu, 07 Mar 2013 00:02:54 -0500 http://forum.doozan.com/read.php?2,1915,11390#msg-11390 Re: Working USB-Sticks http://forum.doozan.com/read.php?2,1915,11390#msg-11390
I can boot pogoplug with 2/4 Gb drives .. did it many times .. now I have misplaced them.
So i tried my Sandisk 16gb .. no go with Debian squeeze or wheezy ... but Arch boots .. oye wei

yes i tried the setenv to init the usb ,, but that has no affect.
whatever it's worth someones time .. yes it's pogoplug e02 the pink one.]]> sms Debian Sat, 02 Feb 2013 02:10:17 -0500 http://forum.doozan.com/read.php?2,1915,10889#msg-10889 Re: Working USB-Sticks http://forum.doozan.com/read.php?2,1915,10889#msg-10889 narasp Debian Sat, 15 Dec 2012 03:57:00 -0500 http://forum.doozan.com/read.php?2,1915,10572#msg-10572 Re: Working USB-Sticks http://forum.doozan.com/read.php?2,1915,10572#msg-10572 just takes a bit more time... but they work :)]]> audiocrush Debian Mon, 05 Nov 2012 22:18:45 -0500 http://forum.doozan.com/read.php?2,1915,8891#msg-8891 Re: Working USB-Sticks http://forum.doozan.com/read.php?2,1915,8891#msg-8891
>
> Has anyone developed a good way to partion the
> work load between ro and rw so that they can be on
> different sd cards or usb drives, one that will be
> expected to wear out and the other that should
> last??

I have a Dockstar booted from a usb flash drive but the swap space is a swap file on an external usb hard disk. This should prevent the flash drive from wearing out so quickly.]]> hanker Debian Mon, 23 Jul 2012 16:27:03 -0400 http://forum.doozan.com/read.php?2,1915,8842#msg-8842 Re: Working USB-Sticks http://forum.doozan.com/read.php?2,1915,8842#msg-8842
USB 3 must be about to hit big-time as the prices on usb2 drives has plummeted (super media store has many at just over 50 cents per gig. The also have usb3 flash drives for the first time)

Has anyone developed a good way to partion the work load between ro and rw so that they can be on different sd cards or usb drives, one that will be expected to wear out and the other that should last??

TJ]]> TJ Debian Fri, 20 Jul 2012 19:46:32 -0400 http://forum.doozan.com/read.php?2,1915,8434#msg-8434 Re: Working USB-Sticks http://forum.doozan.com/read.php?2,1915,8434#msg-8434 -------------------------------------------------------
> Sandisk Cruzer Fit still humming along without any
> issues whatsoever. 5 months now. I prefer the
> drive just for how compact it is even if it is a
> bit slow.

Another vote for the Sandisk Cruzer Fit. Using 8Gb version and has been rock solid for cold, warm, and power interrupts. And with its size and small led, looks awesome on the front of my pink Pogoplug!]]> rmhopper Debian Fri, 22 Jun 2012 15:29:16 -0400 http://forum.doozan.com/read.php?2,1915,7320#msg-7320 Re: Working USB-Sticks http://forum.doozan.com/read.php?2,1915,7320#msg-7320 -------------------------------------------------------
> Sorry, Off Topic for a moment, did you get the
> heartbeat implemented in the later kernel version?
> some kernel version (e.g. 3.x.x) does not generate
> the delay on/off trigger. I hope the heartbeat LED
> is going to be put back, I surely miss it :-)

'fraid not. I've stuck with the old kernel. Didn't want to have to deal with the headache of getting things working again, so I haven't tried to do a single thing with the newer kernels.]]> rat Debian Mon, 12 Mar 2012 01:30:43 -0400 http://forum.doozan.com/read.php?2,1915,7307#msg-7307 Re: Working USB-Sticks http://forum.doozan.com/read.php?2,1915,7307#msg-7307
Sorry, Off Topic for a moment, did you get the heartbeat implemented in the later kernel version? some kernel version (e.g. 3.x.x) does not generate the delay on/off trigger. I hope the heartbeat LED is going to be put back, I surely miss it :-)

Here is the old thread, in case you want to revisit it: http://forum.doozan.com/read.php?2,3521,3545#msg-3545

Thanks]]> bodhi Debian Sat, 10 Mar 2012 21:48:56 -0500 http://forum.doozan.com/read.php?2,1915,7305#msg-7305 Re: Working USB-Sticks http://forum.doozan.com/read.php?2,1915,7305#msg-7305 rat Debian Sat, 10 Mar 2012 17:51:57 -0500 http://forum.doozan.com/read.php?2,1915,7258#msg-7258 Re: Working USB-Sticks http://forum.doozan.com/read.php?2,1915,7258#msg-7258 hkramski Debian Fri, 02 Mar 2012 17:03:06 -0500 http://forum.doozan.com/read.php?2,1915,7253#msg-7253 Re: Working USB-Sticks http://forum.doozan.com/read.php?2,1915,7253#msg-7253 announced as 50-20 Mo/s (r/w), only 27-17 Mo/s on windows in usb2 port

Quote

debian:~# lsusb
Bus 001 Device 003: ID 13fe:5000 Kingston Technology Company Inc.
Bus 001 Device 002: ID 05e3:0608 Genesys Logic, Inc. USB-2.0 4-Port HUB
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
debian:~# hdparm -tT /dev/sda

/dev/sda:
Timing cached reads: 580 MB in 2.00 seconds = 289.90 MB/sec
Timing buffered disk reads: 78 MB in 3.02 seconds = 25.79 MB/sec

debian:/tmp# dd count=100 bs=1M if=/dev/zero of=./test.img
100+0 records in
100+0 records out
104857600 bytes (105 MB) copied, 24.2449 s, 4.3 MB/s
debian:/tmp#

]]> skyrail Debian Thu, 01 Mar 2012 18:52:15 -0500 http://forum.doozan.com/read.php?2,1915,7252#msg-7252 Re: Working USB-Sticks http://forum.doozan.com/read.php?2,1915,7252#msg-7252 skyrail Debian Thu, 01 Mar 2012 18:07:03 -0500 http://forum.doozan.com/read.php?2,1915,7168#msg-7168 Re: Working USB-Sticks http://forum.doozan.com/read.php?2,1915,7168#msg-7168 -------------------------------------------------------
> I've had success with an 8 gig Corsair and Lenny.

Congradulations]]> osmanthus Debian Tue, 21 Feb 2012 01:24:47 -0500 http://forum.doozan.com/read.php?2,1915,7159#msg-7159 Re: Working USB-Sticks http://forum.doozan.com/read.php?2,1915,7159#msg-7159 Boot is pretty fast but not enough.
Just consider booting on sata disk, it's far better faster and more reliable.
I also booted on compact flash 16 go Silicon power 200x (25Mo/s read, 9 Mo/s write). Not much difference with sdhc
If you use memory card into usb card reader hard drive, check your usb cable.
Also consider connecting mass storage to external powered usb hub.]]> skyrail Debian Sun, 19 Feb 2012 13:32:15 -0500 http://forum.doozan.com/read.php?2,1915,6603#msg-6603 Re: Working USB-Sticks http://forum.doozan.com/read.php?2,1915,6603#msg-6603
... but failed after 1 year 24/7 uptime (data errors), so I will probably want to go for a CF Card option.

Stefan]]> lobo Debian Thu, 12 Jan 2012 07:10:15 -0500 http://forum.doozan.com/read.php?2,1915,6542#msg-6542 Re: Working USB-Sticks http://forum.doozan.com/read.php?2,1915,6542#msg-6542
I have tried 1 usb-stick and 1 sd-card
Both work perfekt with cold and warm boot.

In the begining i get disk failure after cold boot,
but it helps to chnge the boot parameters "fw_setenv bootcmd usb start ; usb stop ; usb......." (search in the forum for right syntax)

Kingstone Datatraveler

Timing cached reads: 420 MB in 2.01 seconds = 209.44 MB/sec
Timing buffered disk reads: 54 MB in 3.08 seconds = 17.56 MB/sec

dd count=100 bs=1M if=/dev/zero of=./test.img
100+0 records in
100+0 records out
104857600 bytes (105 MB) copied, 36.2397 s, 2.9 MB/s

Sandisk Extreme 3 class6 8GB

Timing cached reads: 580 MB in 2.00 seconds = 290.02 MB/sec
Timing buffered disk reads: 48 MB in 3.03 seconds = 15.85 MB/sec

dd count=100 bs=1M if=/dev/zero of=./test.img
100+0 records in
100+0 records out
104857600 bytes (105 MB) copied, 20.9562 s, 5.0 MB/s

/Andreas H (Sweden)]]> Pixi Debian Thu, 05 Jan 2012 07:48:22 -0500 http://forum.doozan.com/read.php?2,1915,6362#msg-6362 Re: Working USB-Sticks http://forum.doozan.com/read.php?2,1915,6362#msg-6362
[root@alarm /]# hdparm -tT /dev/sda

/dev/sda:
Timing cached reads: 450 MB in 2.01 seconds = 224.32 MB/sec
Timing buffered disk reads: 40 MB in 3.35 seconds = 11.93 MB/sec]]> dinjo Debian Mon, 12 Dec 2011 07:58:39 -0500 http://forum.doozan.com/read.php?2,1915,6330#msg-6330 Re: Working USB-Sticks http://forum.doozan.com/read.php?2,1915,6330#msg-6330 -------------------------------------------------------
> Recently tested out a Sandisk Cruzer Blade and
> Cruzer Edge, both work great. Not terribly fast,
> but no issues with warm or cold booting.
>
> The SD Plus USB Sandisk Ducati branded card still
> remains my most favourite out of the bunch though.
> The 4GB card currently sits on the eBays for $23
> approx. Very solid 15 to 20MB/sec writes.

I've also tried several Sandisk Cruiser Edge 4GB. Warm and Cold booting work fine! Costco has 4-packs for less than $30.]]> bodhi Debian Tue, 06 Dec 2011 15:39:14 -0500 http://forum.doozan.com/read.php?2,1915,6246#msg-6246 Re: Working USB-Sticks http://forum.doozan.com/read.php?2,1915,6246#msg-6246 Tried another two 16GB and both are not working.]]> tomcheng76 Debian Sun, 13 Nov 2011 21:11:05 -0500 http://forum.doozan.com/read.php?2,1915,6235#msg-6235 Re: Working USB-Sticks http://forum.doozan.com/read.php?2,1915,6235#msg-6235
http://www.sandisk.com/products/usb-flash-drives/cruzer-fit-usb-flash-drive

Entire flashdrive in a micro Bluetooth dongle size package.

Warm and cold bootable. Averages about 4MB/sec write speeds. Good for people who can't find those tiny MicroSD adapters or want something a little more discrete than other thumbdrives.]]> rat Debian Fri, 11 Nov 2011 16:44:48 -0500 http://forum.doozan.com/read.php?2,1915,5819#msg-5819 Re: Working USB-Sticks http://forum.doozan.com/read.php?2,1915,5819#msg-5819 Look up a few posts. You'll see one from marcov_. His method is to place the uImage and uInitrd in the nand on mtd3. It'll always find the kernel and initrd image to aid in the continuation of the boot process. Basically it allows for sticks that won't boot directly to still house the root filesystem.

http://forum.doozan.com/read.php?2,5552
And in this GoFlex Net threads I explained how to use partition labels to denote the root location since the GoFlex Net has a notorious problem where it won't boot from USB if there's a hard drive attached because the uboot and kernel disk enumeration are different. It just requires you to set the partition label and change a uboot variable.]]> kraqh3d Debian Fri, 09 Sep 2011 06:49:59 -0400 http://forum.doozan.com/read.php?2,1915,5817#msg-5817 Re: Working USB-Sticks http://forum.doozan.com/read.php?2,1915,5817#msg-5817 -------------------------------------------------------
> Hi, I was able to install Debian on Dane-elec 8gb
> flash drive however cold start did not work. I
> tried 2gb micro SD card with USB adapter but it
> ended up initializing on /dev/sdd1. According to
> the installation script, uboot requires usb on
> /dev/sda1. Please let me know how to install
> Debian on partition other than sda1 or how to
> adjust uboot...

Turn device off, unplug all other drives from it, boot with only your MicroSD card plugged in.

Drive lettering does not increment unless you have other devices taking that slot. The MiniUSB plug gets priority, so if you have a drive in the slot, it will always get SDA. This includes the LCD Keyframes.]]> rat Debian Fri, 09 Sep 2011 04:18:24 -0400 http://forum.doozan.com/read.php?2,1915,5808#msg-5808 Re: Working USB-Sticks http://forum.doozan.com/read.php?2,1915,5808#msg-5808
is a how to available on the "marcov_method"?

to change the variables in uboot, do I need to recompile it?
If yes, is there a how to available?
THX

Martin]]> MartinH Debian Thu, 08 Sep 2011 00:51:11 -0400 http://forum.doozan.com/read.php?2,1915,5805#msg-5805 Re: Working USB-Sticks http://forum.doozan.com/read.php?2,1915,5805#msg-5805 I used marcov_ method (kernel and initrd on mtd3) and I've changed boot command line for usb linux system in order to search my rootfs by label (you can set it also to use uuid).

These are the variables I've chianged on uboot:
usb_root=LABEL=mylabel
usb_rootfstype=ext3

I've also set netconsole on usb_custom_params to get kernel messages via udp like u-boot netconsole, but that's another topic.

This evening I'm trying to boot in this way directly from my usb 3.5" harddrive to get a free usb and more speed, and it seems that it works. Great!

my 2 cents]]> fear_factory84 Debian Wed, 07 Sep 2011 19:47:04 -0400 http://forum.doozan.com/read.php?2,1915,5782#msg-5782 Re: Working USB-Sticks http://forum.doozan.com/read.php?2,1915,5782#msg-5782 ititoff Debian Tue, 06 Sep 2011 22:19:23 -0400 http://forum.doozan.com/read.php?2,1915,5598#msg-5598 Re: Working USB-Sticks http://forum.doozan.com/read.php?2,1915,5598#msg-5598 Fred Debian Sat, 20 Aug 2011 12:37:40 -0400 http://forum.doozan.com/read.php?2,1915,5503#msg-5503 Re: Working USB-Sticks http://forum.doozan.com/read.php?2,1915,5503#msg-5503 I use a TREKSTOR Traveler 8GB stick as /dev/sda

I did like hkramski:
debian:~# hdparm -tT /dev/sda
/dev/sda:
Timing cached reads: 510 MB in 2.01 seconds = 254.29 MB/sec
Timing buffered disk reads: 38 MB in 3.05 seconds = 12.46 MB/sec

Coldstart with the stick does not work, without stick it boots to the left over pogoplug system
Now plug in the stick and reboot does the trick
System boots awful slowly
minidlna seems not to start on boot although rc0.d (and so forth are set

When I hook a samsung 160GB to the mini usb port
(I desintegrated the right wall of the HD bay so a cheap chinese 2.5" housing fits,
but is not positioned neatly in the middle)
the system does not do a warm boot.
There are other issues around using the samsung in the bay port but I'l write about this in a different thread.

In a few week I will set up the system new on a different stick i have available for comparision.
Another setup will use the samsung.

rgds

Martin]]> MartinH Debian Tue, 09 Aug 2011 13:30:01 -0400 http://forum.doozan.com/read.php?2,1915,5410#msg-5410 Re: Working USB-Sticks http://forum.doozan.com/read.php?2,1915,5410#msg-5410 -------------------------------------------------------
> Thanks for the Sandisk Ducati recommendation. I've
> been using this for a few months, performance's
> been great! I also used another on my Cannon
> camera, phenomenal speed and very convenient. You
> can also find this drive on Overstock.com for
> similar price (a little bit cheaper if you buy
> 2):
>
> http://www.overstock.com/Electronics/SanDisk-Extre
> me-Ducati-Edition-4GB-SD-Plus-Flash-Memory-Card-Bu
> lk-Packaging/5113833/product.html

Now you know why I love it. It being an SD Plus card is just a huge bonus. It's also a nice performance boost in straight up SD mode as you've discovered. Perfect for cameras and the original SD based sheevaplugs. Just a shame that having the USB plug built in isn't the default for SD cards in general. The ExtremeIII cards are also *quite* nice, but when it comes to tradeoffs... faster writing speeds versus having that oh-so-handy USB connector on there... USB connector, every time.]]> rat Debian Thu, 21 Jul 2011 07:21:33 -0400 http://forum.doozan.com/read.php?2,1915,5409#msg-5409 Re: Working USB-Sticks http://forum.doozan.com/read.php?2,1915,5409#msg-5409 -------------------------------------------------------
> Recently tested out a Sandisk Cruzer Blade and
> Cruzer Edge, both work great. Not terribly fast,
> but no issues with warm or cold booting.
>
> The SD Plus USB Sandisk Ducati branded card still
> remains my most favourite out of the bunch though.
> The 4GB card currently sits on the eBays for $23
> approx. Very solid 15 to 20MB/sec writes.

Thanks for the Sandisk Ducati recommendation. I've been using this for a few months, performance's been great! I also used another on my Cannon camera, phenomenal speed and very convenient. You can also find this drive on Overstock.com for similar price (a little bit cheaper if you buy 2):

http://www.overstock.com/Electronics/SanDisk-Extreme-Ducati-Edition-4GB-SD-Plus-Flash-Memory-Card-Bulk-Packaging/5113833/product.html]]> bodhi Debian Wed, 20 Jul 2011 17:27:19 -0400