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Posted by DJDavid 
conventional LCD TV ?
January 12, 2012 09:59AM
Hello everyone and Happy New Year
I wonder if it's possible my DockStar connected to a conventional LCD TV or posscible that this is a photo frame?
thank you
Re: conventional LCD TV ?
January 12, 2012 07:24PM
Should be. You would need a USB->HDMI (or VGA or DVI depending on what inputs your TV has). Adapters with Displaylink chips work best although you can find the old USB2VGA adapters quite cheap now. No sound though - you would need a different adapter/cable for that.

Some older 1.8" picture frames are hackable to use as a display but they can be hard to find and it can be (near) impossible to manually hack them if the existing hacks don't work.

-PG http://jeff.doozan.com/debian/lcd/



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/12/2012 07:25PM by petergunn.
Re: conventional LCD TV ?
January 13, 2012 05:57AM
Re: conventional LCD TV ?
January 14, 2012 05:47PM
Its possible some of these might have SIS USB2VGA chipsets that would work under debian but there is no way of knowing, and if they did work the output will be slow and jumpy. Best to find a displaylink device - they should be easy to find. One with DL-195 chipset is probably best, although it may be overkill for an old LCD.

-PG
Re: conventional LCD TV ?
January 15, 2012 07:56AM
Hello all I have not compressed using the Google translation
But that's good?
http://www.displaylink.com/shop/index.php?product=5

Here is my e model of LCD TV CONTINENTAL EDISON 65LCD42FHDR3 is recent
thank you
Re: conventional LCD TV ?
January 15, 2012 05:50PM
Yes, those adapters should allow your dockstar to run X11 on your 42" 1080p HDTV.

A few things to consider:
- the Linux/Debian display link drivers only support 16bit color (you'll probably never notice though)
- the drivers & xorg.conf config can be non-trivial to set up the first time
- the dockstar's 128Mb memory limits X11 - you can have a usable fluxbox desktop but don't expect miracles
- the dockstar's CPU is not fast enough to display hi-definition video through the adapter

-PG
Re: conventional LCD TV ?
January 16, 2012 07:10AM
OK Good thank you
Re: conventional LCD TV ?
January 19, 2012 03:52PM
Re: conventional LCD TV ?
January 20, 2012 07:05AM
Re: conventional LCD TV ?
January 20, 2012 06:28PM
DJDavid Wrote:
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> Good ?
> http://cgi.ebay.fr/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=
> 250925261756
> thank you

You want a displaylink DL-195 or DL165 chipset. Its hard to tell from the ads which chipset each one has so you would be best to ask the seller what chipset the adapter has. Sometimes they put they misrepresent the cheaper knock off products by putting misleading chipset names in the title and calling it a "model number". If that is a displaylink device then its an okay price.

If I were buying one in the EU I would probably purchase one of these:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Plugable-Multiple-2048x1152-1920x1200-DisplayLink/dp/B0038P1TP4

The Linux Displaylink driver was written by Plugable: http://plugable.com/category/platform/linux/ so their products are the safest bet and you might be able to get some level of knowledgeable support.

If you buy a DL-195 device that support 1920x1200+ it will probably be useful for many years - probably long after you have moved on from your dockstar project. I would spend the extra $$$ rather than get a DL-165 or lower device.

-PG
Re: conventional LCD TV ?
January 21, 2012 02:04PM
Hello
I had confirmation that the chipset it is the DL-165
I wait to receive
any difference between the chipset and the DL-165 DL-195?
I'd like to know what difference a stroke VGA and DVI cable? HDMI or if I am the same resolution
thank you
Re: conventional LCD TV ?
January 21, 2012 02:11PM
DJDavid Wrote:
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> any difference between the chipset and the DL-165 DL-195?

I think:
DL-165 supports various resolutions up to 1920x1080 - it is slightly older and probably has better driver support
DL-195 supports 1920x1200

No practical difference between VGA, DVI and HDMI - they all support the resolutions you require if your TV has inputs. VGA will degrade with longer cables and is (more) subject to electrical interference. HDMI is good for longer distances and can handle audio+video (but your displaylink adapter only support video).

-PG
Re: conventional LCD TV ?
January 21, 2012 03:05PM
Thank you for all these info
just a question it is possible to connect my DVB-s USB with kaffeine
I think that the dockstar is not enough resource
but as there will be the external graphics card I it is not if ca while go
Thank you again
Re: conventional LCD TV ?
January 21, 2012 04:39PM
DJDavid Wrote:
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> just a question it is possible to connect my DVB-s
> USB with kaffeine
> I think that the dockstar is not enough resource

The dockstar can only just handle an X11 fluxbox desktop with a few xterms and maybe a low weight web browser (like Midori). It doesn't have enough memory or CPU speed for apps like caffeine. Even if the dockstar could to decode and render the signal fast enough I think there would be too much USB contention for it to work (the dockstar only has a single USB port - the other 3 ports are a hub).

Let us know how it goes

-PG
Re: conventional LCD TV ?
January 22, 2012 05:43AM
ok
thank you
Re: conventional LCD TV ?
January 23, 2012 05:40AM
hello
after seeing the forum that there are some that I install MythTV
http://forum.doozan.com/read.php?2, 6164.6269 # msg-6269
J have installed Kaffeine but I have error message:
kaffeine(809): KUniqueApplication: Cannot find the D-Bus session server: "/usr/bin/dbus-launch terminated abnormally with the following error: Autolaunch error: X11 initialization failed.
kaffeine(808): KUniqueApplication: Pipe closed unexpectedly.
so I is not what is the problem
as I have not received the displaylink
t is there a way to see the office DockStar Windows on my PC?
with VNC?
thank you
Re: conventional LCD TV ?
January 29, 2012 06:17PM
FYI - I picked up a DL-195 device (SainSonic UG19D1) that was going cheap. It works with my 1920x1200 monitor and a basic fluxbox display is quite functional and Midori can render complex webpages full screen without too many problems.

Unfortunately the dockstar's usb port cannot supply enough power to run the device directly which is a little disappointing as it has not problems driving the Doublesight DS-90U LED backlit monitor. A powered hub or Y-power cable is an easy fix though.

-PG
Re: conventional LCD TV ?
January 31, 2012 04:38AM
Hello
I have not received my DL165 Display
I received my USB sound card that works
I have a USB hub 5V DC 2A can be supplied if it does not work for Display
What is a Flubox?
PS: Currently I use vncserver to see my desktop
but it must run this command by ssh to work:
vncserver: 0-geometry 1024x768-depth 16
t is there a way to run on startup in Debian
thank you
Re: conventional LCD TV ?
January 31, 2012 10:48PM
Easiest way is to put the command in /etc/rc.local before the "exit 0" line. On boot it will be started as root after all the services have started up.

-PG



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/31/2012 10:49PM by petergunn.
Re: conventional LCD TV ?
February 01, 2012 07:14AM
Hello
I tried it does not work
# / bin / sh-e
#
# rc.local
#
# This script IS Executed at the end of EACH multiuser runlevel.
# Make sure That the script will "exit 0" on success or Any Other
# Value on error.
#
# In order to enable or disable this script just change the execution
# Bits.
#
# By default this script Does Nothing.
vncserver: 0-geometry 1024x768-depth 16
exit 0

by cons can you tell me how to meter a day my kernel?
and how to configure Wifi meter articles
thank you
Re: conventional LCD TV ?
February 02, 2012 06:47PM
I think it should be something like...
vncserver :0 -geometry 1024x768 -depth 16
The commands in /etc/rc.local run as root so the config will come from /root/.vnc rather than a user home directory.

If you want to run the commands as a regular user you would need to do something like:
su user -c 'bash --login -c "vncserver :0 -geometry 1024x768 -depth 16 > /tmp/vnc.log 2>&1"'
Change "user" to the username of your account. The first time you run it it might prompt for a password so make sure you set that up before you put it in /etc/rc.local

-PG



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/02/2012 06:50PM by petergunn.
Re: conventional LCD TV ?
February 04, 2012 09:17AM
GOOD !!
Thank you
Re: conventional LCD TV ?
February 10, 2012 02:31PM
Hello
I repaired my DockStar with Jtag TIAO;-)
I would like to install my Display DL-165
but when I plug the usb to the Dockstar jen' have no display
should we install packages or drivers so it works

Thank you



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 03/10/2012 07:45AM by DJDavid.
Re: conventional LCD TV ?
March 10, 2012 07:46AM
help ? please
Re: conventional LCD TV ?
March 10, 2012 12:14PM
See: Displaylink Doublesight DS-90U monitor working

If all is good the screen should turn green when you boot the dockstar with the display attached. Then you need to start up X11. Currently there is no easy way to have it plug-n-play.

-PG
Re: conventional LCD TV ?
March 11, 2012 07:10PM
hello petergunn
I've tried to follow your tutorial but here is the problem
how?
Kernel with what should I install?
root@debian:~# uname -r
2.6.35.7-dockstar

root@debian:~# cd /tmp
root@debian:/tmp# tar xvfz xserver-xorg-video-displaylink_0.3.orig.tar.gz
udlfb/
udlfb/README
udlfb/Makefile
udlfb/udlfb.c
udlfb/udlfb.h
xf86-video-displaylink/
xf86-video-displaylink/ChangeLog
xf86-video-displaylink/Makefile.in
xf86-video-displaylink/missing
xf86-video-displaylink/crtc
xf86-video-displaylink/configure
xf86-video-displaylink/COPYING
xf86-video-displaylink/README
xf86-video-displaylink/config.guess
xf86-video-displaylink/config.h.in~
xf86-video-displaylink/autom4te.cache/
xf86-video-displaylink/autom4te.cache/output.0
xf86-video-displaylink/autom4te.cache/traces.0
xf86-video-displaylink/autom4te.cache/traces.1
xf86-video-displaylink/autom4te.cache/output.1
xf86-video-displaylink/autom4te.cache/requests
xf86-video-displaylink/depcomp
xf86-video-displaylink/install-sh
xf86-video-displaylink/aclocal.m4
xf86-video-displaylink/Makefile.am
xf86-video-displaylink/configure.ac
xf86-video-displaylink/autogen.sh
xf86-video-displaylink/config.h.in
xf86-video-displaylink/config.sub
xf86-video-displaylink/ltmain.sh
xf86-video-displaylink/src/
xf86-video-displaylink/src/displaylink.c
xf86-video-displaylink/src/Makefile.in
xf86-video-displaylink/src/displaylink.h
xf86-video-displaylink/src/Makefile.am
xf86-video-displaylink/src/displaylink_output.c
xf86-video-displaylink/src/displaylink_crtc.c
root@debian:/tmp# cd xf86-video-displaylink
root@debian:/tmp/xf86-video-displaylink# ./configure && make && make install
checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
checking whether build environment is sane... yes
checking for a thread-safe mkdir -p... /bin/mkdir -p
checking for gawk... no
checking for mawk... mawk
checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... yes
checking whether to enable maintainer-specific portions of Makefiles... no
checking build system type... armv5tel-unknown-linux-gnueabi
checking host system type... armv5tel-unknown-linux-gnueabi
checking for style of include used by make... GNU
checking for gcc... gcc
checking for C compiler default output file name... a.out
checking whether the C compiler works... yes
checking whether we are cross compiling... no
checking for suffix of executables...
checking for suffix of object files... o
checking whether we are using the GNU C compiler... yes
checking whether gcc accepts -g... yes
checking for gcc option to accept ISO C89... none needed
checking dependency style of gcc... gcc3
checking for a sed that does not truncate output... /bin/sed
checking for grep that handles long lines and -e... /bin/grep
checking for egrep... /bin/grep -E
checking for fgrep... /bin/grep -F
checking for ld used by gcc... /usr/bin/ld
checking if the linker (/usr/bin/ld) is GNU ld... yes
checking for BSD- or MS-compatible name lister (nm)... /usr/bin/nm -B
checking the name lister (/usr/bin/nm -B) interface... BSD nm
checking whether ln -s works... yes
checking the maximum length of command line arguments... 1572864
checking whether the shell understands some XSI constructs... yes
checking whether the shell understands "+="... yes
checking for /usr/bin/ld option to reload object files... -r
checking for objdump... objdump
checking how to recognize dependent libraries... pass_all
checking for ar... ar
checking for strip... strip
checking for ranlib... ranlib
checking command to parse /usr/bin/nm -B output from gcc object... ok
checking how to run the C preprocessor... gcc -E
checking for ANSI C header files... yes
checking for sys/types.h... yes
checking for sys/stat.h... yes
checking for stdlib.h... yes
checking for string.h... yes
checking for memory.h... yes
checking for strings.h... yes
checking for inttypes.h... yes
checking for stdint.h... yes
checking for unistd.h... yes
checking for dlfcn.h... yes
checking for objdir... .libs
checking if gcc supports -fno-rtti -fno-exceptions... no
checking for gcc option to produce PIC... -fPIC -DPIC
checking if gcc PIC flag -fPIC -DPIC works... yes
checking if gcc static flag -static works... yes
checking if gcc supports -c -o file.o... yes
checking if gcc supports -c -o file.o... (cached) yes
checking whether the gcc linker (/usr/bin/ld) supports shared libraries... yes
checking whether -lc should be explicitly linked in... no
checking dynamic linker characteristics... GNU/Linux ld.so
checking how to hardcode library paths into programs... immediate
checking whether stripping libraries is possible... yes
checking if libtool supports shared libraries... yes
checking whether to build shared libraries... yes
checking whether to build static libraries... no
checking for gcc... (cached) gcc
checking whether we are using the GNU C compiler... (cached) yes
checking whether gcc accepts -g... (cached) yes
checking for gcc option to accept ISO C89... (cached) none needed
checking dependency style of gcc... (cached) gcc3
checking if RANDR is defined... yes
checking if RENDER is defined... yes
checking if XV is defined... yes
checking for pkg-config... /usr/bin/pkg-config
checking pkg-config is at least version 0.9.0... yes
checking for XORG... yes
checking whether xf86ConfigIsaEntity is declared... no
checking for ANSI C header files... (cached) yes
configure: creating ./config.status
config.status: creating Makefile
config.status: creating src/Makefile
config.status: creating config.h
config.status: executing depfiles commands
config.status: executing libtool commands
make all-recursive
make[1]: Entering directory `/tmp/xf86-video-displaylink'
Making all in src
make[2]: Entering directory `/tmp/xf86-video-displaylink/src'
/bin/bash ../libtool --tag=CC --mode=compile gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I.. -fvisibility=hidden -I/usr/include/xorg -I/usr/include/pixman-1 -g -O2 -MT displaylink.lo -MD -MP -MF .deps/displaylink.Tpo -c -o displaylink.lo displaylink.c
libtool: compile: gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I.. -fvisibility=hidden -I/usr/include/xorg -I/usr/include/pixman-1 -g -O2 -MT displaylink.lo -MD -MP -MF .deps/displaylink.Tpo -c displaylink.c -fPIC -DPIC -o .libs/displaylink.o
displaylink.c:49:27: error: xf86Resources.h: No such file or directory
displaylink.c:50:21: error: xf86RAC.h: No such file or directory
displaylink.c: In function 'DisplayLinkPreInit':
displaylink.c:288: error: 'struct _ScrnInfoRec' has no member named 'racMemFlags'
displaylink.c:288: error: 'RAC_FB' undeclared (first use in this function)
displaylink.c:288: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
displaylink.c:288: error: for each function it appears in.)
displaylink.c:288: error: 'RAC_COLORMAP' undeclared (first use in this function)
displaylink.c:288: error: 'RAC_CURSOR' undeclared (first use in this function)
displaylink.c:288: error: 'RAC_VIEWPORT' undeclared (first use in this function)
displaylink.c:290: error: 'struct _ScrnInfoRec' has no member named 'racIoFlags'
make[2]: *** [displaylink.lo] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/tmp/xf86-video-displaylink/src'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/tmp/xf86-video-displaylink'
make: *** [all] Error 2
root@debian:/tmp/xf86-video-displaylink#

thank you



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/11/2012 07:12PM by DJDavid.
Re: conventional LCD TV ?
March 11, 2012 07:30PM
Script to upgrade kernel (run as root): http://jeff.doozan.com/debian/lcd/setup_kernel.sh

From Displaylink Doublesight DS-90U monitor working step 4)..
tar xvfz xserver-xorg-video-displaylink_0.3.orig.tar.gz
cd xf86-video-displaylink
vi src/displaylink.c # comment out the following lines...
//#include "xf86Resources.h"
//#include "xf86RAC.h"
//      pScrn->racMemFlags = RAC_FB | RAC_COLORMAP | RAC_CURSOR | RAC_VIEWPORT;
//      pScrn->racIoFlags = RAC_FB | RAC_COLORMAP | RAC_CURSOR | RAC_VIEWPORT;
//      xf86CrtcScreenInit (pScreen);
This should fix teh compile errors. Make sure to do all steps 1) .. 9)

-PG
Re: conventional LCD TV ?
March 12, 2012 07:02AM
ok I'll try I'll let you know
but I will find kernel linux-image-2.6.39-DockStar-server_1.2_armel.deb
if I dockstarheavy.deb renames in the script that you have posted this is ok?
because I is not found the right dockstarheavy.deb

can you pass me the file displaylink.c already changed because I'm not about to do as they should
it should as I type these commands to install a new kernel?
cd / tmp
wget http://ss4200.homelinux.com/dockstar/gogo-dock.sh
chmod 777 gogo-dock.sh
. / gogo-dock.sh
because in this script it asks me to make choices and I do is what to do?
if I did:
cd / tmp
wget 193.16.217.9/files/dockstarkandm.deb
dpkg-i - force-overwrite dockstarkandm.deb
default-echo on> / sys / class / leds / DockStar \: green \: health / trigger
echo none> / sys / class / leds / DockStar \ orange \: misc / trigger
when I reboot my DockStar no longer works


thank you



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 03/12/2012 02:24PM by DJDavid.
Re: conventional LCD TV ?
March 12, 2012 04:29PM
I galley
I have kernel 2.6.35.7-DockStar
I still have the same error message
when compiling
tar xvfz xserver-xorg-video-displaylink_0.3.orig.tar.gz
cd xf86-video-displaylink
vi src / displaylink.c # comment out the Following lines ...
/ / # include "xf86Resources.h"
/ / # include "xf86RAC.h"
/ / PScrn-> racMemFlags RAC_FB = | RAC_COLORMAP | RAC_CURSOR | RAC_VIEWPORT;
/ / PScrn-> racIoFlags RAC_FB = | RAC_COLORMAP | RAC_CURSOR | RAC_VIEWPORT;
/ / Xf86CrtcScreenInit (pScreen);
. / configure && make && make install

voivi file displaylink.c
tell me if it is ok oudonné me with your xorg.conf
thank you
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Re: conventional LCD TV ?
March 13, 2012 05:52AM
kernel 2.6.35.7-dockstar should be good

You are getting the compile errors because you need to edit the source files and comment out (use // ) the lines listed in step 4) " # comment out the Following lines ..." - dont just add them at the top of the file.

i.e. search for each line and prefix with //
        pScrn->racMemFlags = RAC_FB | RAC_COLORMAP | RAC_CURSOR | RAC_VIEWPORT;
	/* XXX Is this right?  Can probably remove RAC_FB */
	pScrn->racIoFlags = RAC_FB | RAC_COLORMAP | RAC_CURSOR | RAC_VIEWPORT;
You can start with my xorg.conf but you'll probably need to tweak some of the settings for your monitor.

-PG



Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 03/13/2012 05:55AM by petergunn.
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