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GlobalScale offers new Marvell based system on Kickstarter

Posted by rayknight 
GlobalScale offers new Marvell based system on Kickstarter
October 04, 2016 10:37PM
GlobalScale Technologies the originator of the SheevaPlug from which the PogoPlug and similar devices evolved is running a Kickstarter campaign for a 64bit possible successor! This device has a 64bit dual core Marvell processor with up to 2GB of RAM. See details at https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/874883570/marvell-espressobin-board



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/04/2016 10:48PM by rayknight.
Re: GlobalScale offers new Marvell based system on Kickstarter
October 04, 2016 11:51PM
Personally, I am not an early adopter, so wouldn't jump into bandwagon. Also, I noticed it is only a dual-core system.
Re: GlobalScale offers new Marvell based system on Kickstarter
October 05, 2016 10:31AM
Re: GlobalScale offers new Marvell based system on Kickstarter
October 05, 2016 12:50PM
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Them
ESPRESSObin has a very low power consumption with less than 1W Thermal dissapation [sic] at 1 Ghz

1W is at the level of flashlights powered by a crank thing. Might just be the perfect Doomsday neighborhood server!

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Re: GlobalScale offers new Marvell based system on Kickstarter
December 23, 2016 03:01PM
This thing looks awesome! I've put myself on the patiently waiting list! For $40.00, this looks pretty much untouchable as a "do it all ARM board" with a powerful dual core processor, min 512MB ram, SATA ll, USB3, 2 extra Gbit LAN connectors, mPCIe expansion, etc.

I've read (going off memory) that most current SBC ARM boards / processors do not support native SATA. Some of the ones that do support SATA (are doing so through USB?) that is not as efficient as if properly implemented. ie: bananna pi.

Is this about Native Command Queuing (NCQ) or some other standard?

Anyone know the actual facts on this and does this board have proper SATA implementation?

With as much processor and memory "horsepower" this board has compared to the pogo's, would it even be a spec to consider for overall performance with a hdd attached?

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Re: GlobalScale offers new Marvell based system on Kickstarter
December 23, 2016 04:52PM
Re: GlobalScale offers new Marvell based system on Kickstarter
December 23, 2016 05:38PM
@ bodhi

As near as I can tell, it looks like they've made/making deliveries for the pledges in Nov this year, early bird deliveries in Jan, and regular orders in March. Also looks like you can pre-order.

Info: https://www.globalscaletechnologies.com/p-72-marvell-espressobin.aspx

And: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/874883570/marvell-espressobin-board/description

I'll wait until they're available in stock here in the US before I place an order. I'm too impatient to order and wait weeks or months.

Anyone here get in on the November delivery?

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Re: GlobalScale offers new Marvell based system on Kickstarter
December 23, 2016 08:42PM
Yeah, me too. Waiting for pre-order is no fun! But looks like the Pre-Order button only works for the entry level board. If I get this board, it would be the SuperExpresso version.

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Re: GlobalScale offers new Marvell based system on Kickstarter
June 28, 2017 03:32AM
So anyone ordered this? Its available on Amazon for $49 + free shipping. Comes without power adapter or prebuilt sdcard.

I'm only interested in the 1GB version since the 2GB is too costly for me.
Was looking at their forums for any drawbacks or the amount of support people got and it didn't look nice. SDCard image from their site fails to load for a lot of people. In the specs it written that the device can power from usb port. Many have said the board does not power up from usb and the 12V dc adapter is required. Saw specs for adapter and no mention of wattage required. Just 12V dc adapter with barrel specs. Maybe they're using laptop dc adapter.

Debian support coming in future according to them.
Vinay Wrote:
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> Was looking at their forums for any drawbacks or t
> he amount of support people got and it didn't look
> nice. SDCard image from their site fails to load f
> or a lot of people. Debian support coming in future

Globalscale is notorious for this. They put out an initial image and then subsequently abandon it even if it is half baked......in fact if you click on the support / image links at Globalscale's website, more than half don't work anymore or if they do work, it's for Lenny or maybe Wheezy. I have a Smile plug which ran Arch Linux on it and that effort (i.e. keeping it updated) has been abandoned by both Globalscale and Arch.

When you buy Globalscale you have to do it realizing if it weren't for the work of others, the boards would have no following whatsoever. Fortunately Marvell has broad support in mainline Debian so most likely you can figure out a way to get it to run most flavors of Debian. Maybe Armbian will put out an image for it if GS is lucky.
Re: GlobalScale offers new Marvell based system on Kickstarter
June 28, 2017 07:24PM
I was waiting for the 2GB version and then start building kernel for it.

And looks like it has started shipping. But what a rip off! shipping from Globalscales is like 20% of the cost of the board :))

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Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 06/28/2017 07:36PM by bodhi.
Re: GlobalScale offers new Marvell based system on Kickstarter
June 28, 2017 10:18PM
Re: GlobalScale offers new Marvell based system on Kickstarter
June 29, 2017 06:57AM
bodhi Wrote:
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> I was waiting for the 2GB version and then start building kernel for it.
>
@bodhi: After 8+ months have gone, you are still waiting for the shipment to arrive? You were just kidding, ain't you?
Re: GlobalScale offers new Marvell based system on Kickstarter
June 29, 2017 12:05PM
I received my 2GB unit from the KickStarter campaign about 2 weeks ago, but I've been busy with other life issues so haven't had a chance to even hook it up. I'll be on vacation for the next 2 weeks so it will be some time before I get around to doing anything with mine. However, if you check the Armbian Work in Progress link at https://www.armbian.com/work-in-progress/ you will see that they have already begun work and there is even an image - https://dl.armbian.com/espressobin/Ubuntu_xenial_default_nightly.7z available!
Re: GlobalScale offers new Marvell based system on Kickstarter
June 29, 2017 05:44PM
> @bodhi: After 8+ months have gone, you are still w
> aiting for the shipment to arrive? You were just k
> idding, ain't you?

Nope. I forgot all about Kickstarter so did not join the campaign. I was waiting for Globalscale to start shipping the 2GB and buy it.

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Re: GlobalScale offers new Marvell based system on Kickstarter
June 29, 2017 09:04PM
Dojo Wrote:
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> Vinay Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Was looking at their forums for any drawbacks or
> t
> > he amount of support people got and it didn't lo
> ok
> > nice. SDCard image from their site fails to load
> f
> > or a lot of people. Debian support coming in fut
> ure
>
> Globalscale is notorious for this. They put out a
> n initial image and then subsequently abandon it e
> ven if it is half baked......in fact if you click
> on the support / image links at Globalscale's webs
> ite, more than half don't work anymore or if they
> do work, it's for Lenny or maybe Wheezy.
> I have a Smile plug which ran Arch Linux on it and
> that effort (i.e. keeping it updated) has been aba
> ndoned by both Globalscale and Arch.
>

If you could post the info about the Smileplug here. I could take a look to see if I can support it, if not too much works.

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/29/2017 09:05PM by bodhi.
Re: GlobalScale offers new Marvell based system on Kickstarter
June 30, 2017 07:38AM
@bodhi: Perhaps, this Marvell SMILE Plug is what you asked?
I bricked uboot on the Smileplug attempting to get it to load Debian. As it has Armada
SOC, I could not find a kwb that I could kwboot with. It requires DdR3 training during initialization of uboot so you have to use later versions of kwboot to even attempt. Globalscale cannot supply kwb for this device and wants 41 dollars to solder new SPI chip. Not worth it IMHO.
Re: GlobalScale offers new Marvell based system on Kickstarter
June 30, 2017 06:52PM
Dojo,

> As it has Armada
> SOC, I could not find a kwb that I could kwboot w
> ith.

There are quite a few Armada SoC u-boots. There might be one that will boot this box with kwboot. Most latest Armada u-boot that are floating around or in mainline have DDR3 training.

> It requires DdR3 training during initializat
> ion of uboot so you have to use later versions of
> kwboot to even attempt.

I've built the latest kwboot binary from u-boot-master recently.

> Globalscale cannot supply
> kwb for this device and wants 41 dollars to solder
> new SPI chip. Not worth it IMHO.

No way :)

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@All,

Information found by Google about this box is not consistent. So I need detailed technical info (such as stock boot log) to see if I can suggest a specific u-boot binary to kwboot with.

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Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 06/30/2017 06:56PM by bodhi.
bodhi Wrote:
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> So I need detailed technical info (suc
> h as stock boot log) to see if I can suggest a spe
> cific u-boot binary to kwboot with.

S.O.L. in that regard unfortunately.
Re: GlobalScale offers new Marvell based system on Kickstarter
June 30, 2017 07:49PM
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