@ Lucas You seem to have misinterpreted my comments: I said: QuoteThe imx6q SoC in the Wandboard quad has a good established community of users and developers. That comment refers to the imx6q SoC itself, and not the Wandboard in particular. The imx6q does indeeed have a pretty good developer community behind it, and Freescale offers plenty on documentation, in contrast to other SoC mfrsby gnexus - Allwinner A10
Happy to hear there is now an iMX6 quad-core version of the Wandboard. Thanks for the link! The imx6q SoC in the Wandboard quad has a good established community of users and developers. Tons of documentation on the imx6q is available. The board supports SATA, and is very close to the price point specified. Currently, AFAIK, the quad-core Wandboard is the winning platform in our quest foby gnexus - Allwinner A10
@linuxium Quotelinuxiumthe CPU scaling governor is set at "on demand" rather than "performance" so there is another potential improvement here. The kernel I'm using for the C7 was compiled using a config that was as closely aligned to my x86_84 Fedora config as possible. Unfortunately it required a few changes to be able to boot on the C7, and I still have not beenby gnexus - Allwinner A10
Suprisingly, I actually got it wrong about the performance of the 1.10GHz Intel Celeron 847 in the Acer C7. It is nowhere near as fast as the 2.0 GHz C2D In fact, it is about half as fast in most tasks. The dual-core Exynos 5 in the Samsung Chromebook actually compares to it evenly in most tasks! My C7 feels as fast, or even snappier in some tasks, as my C2D notebook. But the benchmark results moby gnexus - Allwinner A10
I have started a Phoronix Test Suite Openbenchmark thread in the A10 forum: http://forum.doozan.com/read.php?6,12066 that compares the performance under Ubuntu/Fedora of several of the Android-based HDMI mini-PCs. It also includes Linux benchmarks of some other devices including the Samsung Exnos 5 Chromebook, ODROID-U2, Intel i7-950, Intel C2D T7300, and the Acer C7 Chromebook. It would beby gnexus - Debian
To duplicate all of Ian's tests, including CLOMP, you can run the following command after installing PTS: phoronix-test-suite benchmark 1303250-AR-MINIPCPCU05 My benchmarks above included all of Ian's tests except CLOMP. If you also have installation issues with OpenMP as I did then you can use the following command to duplicate the test without the CLOMP bechmark: phoronix-teby gnexus - Allwinner A10
I finally have Ian's benchmarks completed for my Intel Core 2 Duo T7300 Asus F3SV laptop: http://openbenchmarking.org/result/1303316-FO-GNEXUS25615 The individual tests in PTS version 4.4 seem to be the same as in Ian's older version. Therefore, as Ian noted, I would expect little to no variation in the test results due to the different versions. Fedora 18 would not work with theby gnexus - Allwinner A10
The iwave is nice, as are a few other imx6 boards in the other thread. But the iwave will still have the low-volume pricing issue. It seems that recently the price of the imx6 has dropped to about $20, which is fairly reasonable, and not that much more than A10. Therefore I fail to see why no manufacturer has stepped up to the plate to fill the demand for a low-cost imx6q device with SATA. Hell,by gnexus - Allwinner A10
Quotebodhi Is there such a product out there? I think we've determined in the other thread that our mythical GbE+SATA device for under $100-150 still does not yet exist. Unless you have something new to add?by gnexus - Allwinner A10
I just completed Ian's tests on my C2D laptop which is fairly close to the performance of the C7. Looking closer at Ian's Chromebook results I have noticed that the Samsung Exynos 5 Chromebook is a really bad value price vs. performance wise. Epic fail! You can clearly see the massive performance difference between ARM and Intel i7 in Ian's tests. My results are far closer to the iby gnexus - Allwinner A10
Hey Ian, why are you using a Phoronix Test Suite Release from two years ago? mk802plus-ubuntu-complete:Phoronix Test Suite 3.6.1 - 2013-03-20 15:29:21 Phoronix Test Suite 3.6 "Arendal" Release Date: December 13, 2011 There have been five releases since 3.6 was released. I'm going to d/l 4.4 since that is the only one that seems available. But it is going to be difficultby gnexus - Allwinner A10
Thank you for your post Ian! QuoteUnfortunately I don't own an Acer C7 Chromebook to include in my tests! Well I do have a Acer C7 Chromebook ;) It is running Fedora 18, however. Therefore running your benchmark would not be an accurate comparison. When I have some time I will try to duplicate a drive and put Ubuntu 12.04 on it. Then we can get an accurate result. In the meantimeby gnexus - Allwinner A10
Openbenchmarking.org has a nice comparison of the standard HDMI Mini-PC's running Ubuntu 12.04 natively. The comparison is a Phoronix Test Suite of the MK802+, UG802 and GK802. It also has ODROID-U2, MK803, Exynos 5 Chromebook, and Intel Core i7-950 thrown in for good measure. Unfortunately the RK3188 is not in the comparison. Obviously the Core i7 comes out way on top in all tasks with tby gnexus - Allwinner A10
Quotereal price is $27x2 = $54 Must be same people seling as with the same type of GK802 bundle. . . I just glanced at the lowest price since I'm not interested in buying one. Corrected my post. Thanks for the update!by gnexus - Allwinner A10
So far on Slatedroid people are reporting Antutu scores of ~12500 for A31 on a Onda V812. Vellamo score is about 1100. Here is a comment about A31 battery life from that Slatedroid thread: Quotekennyn Battery life - can't say to much about it yet other than that is is down to 57% after 1 3/4 hours of of surfing/wifi on and screen on full brightness. So a little bit more than 4 hours withby gnexus - Allwinner A10
Since nobody is posting yet on this thread, and I would like to see more info about Linux on Rockchip devices, I have a few more links to add to the thread in hopes somebody might be interested in getting one and helping to improve Linux on the devices: The rk3066-linux project is at http://code.google.com/p/rk3066-linux/ Omegamoon is working with the MK808, and has sucessfully compiled theby gnexus - Allwinner A10
Quotegnexus I will wait there also for A31 7" tablet or similar. Tablet price must also be below 100 Euro I almost have my wish there: http://tabletrepublic.com/forum/android-tablet-reviews/first-7-inch-a31-quad-core-tablet-pc-icoo-icou7gt-review-3614.html Current price is €111. They are still €11 short. That, and the reportedly poor battery life of the A31, will keep me waiting.by gnexus - Allwinner A10
QuoteHowever the power consumption should be much better for A31 Well, looks like battery life for A31 is about 4-5 hours with a 8000 mAh battery. The ATM7029 with a 4000 mAh battery is 7-9 hours. The RK3188 reportedly gets about 6 hours with 8000 mAh battery. So far I would say A31 is worst for battery life. Power consumption of the three is by far the best with ATM7029, where the battery sby gnexus - Allwinner A10
There is also an A31 HDMI stick now. According to liliputing: QuoteThe Android TV stick also struggles with 1080p video playback when using the XBMC media center app for Android. According to GeekBuying, their test unit also randomly rebooted a few times. The Antutu benchmarks for A31 are around 10915 vs. 12042 for ATM7029 and ~18000 for RK3188. Huge difference for the RK3188. Shows how muby gnexus - Allwinner A10
According to many sources distros like Ubuntu/Debian work well on RK3066 devices such as MK808, UG802, etc. From Wikipedia: QuoteThe RK3066 is a high performance Cortex A9 Dual Core mobile processor similar to the Samsung Exynos 4 Dual Core chip. In terms of performance, the RK3066 is between the Samsung Exynos 4210 and the Samsung Exynos 4212.[9][10][11][12] 40 nm Dual-core Corteby gnexus - Allwinner A10
Quotegnexus, do you think $200 is good price point for iMX6 QuadCore Not when you can get TWO i802 GK802 Android Quad Core Mini PC Smart TV Box HDMI Stick for HDTV 8GB Bluetooth + RC12 fly air mouse keyboard for $109.99 / lot. Not to mention AliExpress has a $20 coupon on Mar. 26th. Boycott all the overpriced "developer boards." Don't buy 'em at their inflated prices.by gnexus - Allwinner A10
Quotegnexus, do you think $200 is good price point for iMX6 QuadCore No. Certainly not! I think I've made that fairly clear already with my other posts. Under $100 is the ideal price point. OTOH, that said, I think the Habey device is nice and might consider it if they drop the price to say, maybe $150, as that is about €100. But that still doesn't help the majority or people whoby gnexus - Allwinner A10
QuoteI think this is a winner? Habey BIS 6332B ARM A-9 Cortex iMX6 Quad Core. It could be. . . If somebody would simply take that device and re-market as an Android HTPC set-top box for $100 it would be a winner! Big time! This device is basically a Wandboard in a box with the quad-core i.MX6. It is certainly an improvement over the other previous offerings - if your price is correct.by gnexus - Allwinner A10
Quote> at less than $100 USD That's an arbitrary price point you're making. No. That price point was carefully calculated by me and others for a reason. It has historically been the price point at which sufficient demand is created for the device to become feasible as a mass-market device, and not a "development board." QuoteComparisons to tablet PC prices are not vby gnexus - Allwinner A10
The specs. on the page you linked to state the SoC is running at 800MHz. That AmLogic SoC in the specs. has WORSE performance than an A10. It has the same Mali-400 GPU. You would be WAY better off with a Mele A2000 that is half the price. . .by gnexus - Allwinner A10
The supposed USB3 support information for the SoC certainly did NOT come from AliExpress. It came from the mfr. I am not naive. Even if some people disagree with some of my views I think everyone will agree that I try to quote accurate and pertinent information. The only information that I would post for AliExpress is generic sales links, prices, and sales numbers. Now whether or not the actuby gnexus - Allwinner A10
Looks like currently these Ainol 7" tablets are one of the hottest items on Aliexpress. . . it should be interesting to see how A31 stacks against it and if the community can get Linux running on this SoC. Competition is ALWAYS a good thing :)by gnexus - Allwinner A10
It is now the one year anniversary of the Rapsi - with one million Raspi's now sold. That means it will also has been about one year since the release of A10 devices. I was initially very intrigued by the Raspi. I was preparing to buy one. But an Android tablet to replace my aging Nokia N800 was a higher priority. I ended up with an A10 tablet due only to the low cost of it on Amazon. Itby gnexus - Allwinner A10
Looks like Allwinner has the A31 shipping (finally). Currently there are 8"and 10" tablets listed on Aliexpress for shipment on March 1. Prices for the 8" tablets start at $130 minus shipping. The mfr. is Onda. The 8" tablets have a 1024x768 screen with 2GB/16GB. The next up in price is the 10.1" tablets with 1280x800 screen by Onda and also Ainol at about $175. Those alsby gnexus - Allwinner A10
No! It is NOT from Allwinner. . . but their Chinese competitor. (Sorry if that means it is OT, but Jeff has not yet created a generic ARM forum. Nothing much news from AW lately - so this!) Anyway, new quad-core tablets with this SoC were released in Dec. So far Ainol has a 7" and 10" model, and Ramos has the W31. Notice the name of the Ramos tablet - W31. That would likely indicateby gnexus - Allwinner A10