Pogoplug No Longer Allows You to Enable SSH ??

Re: Pogoplug No Longer Allows You to Enable SSH ??

Meto — Thu, 28 Dec 2023 00:26:45 -0600

Hello,

Recently I have acquired a Pogoplug E-02 but I am totally unfamiliar with it. I have connected it to LAN and tried to log via IP address - no success (I do not know if that was possible at first place). I searched google, but most of the treads suggest to replace stock OS with Arch/Debian. What I need is only to install/enable Samba and use the device as simple NAS. Is it possible that to be done on stock OS?

Re: Pogoplug No Longer Allows You to Enable SSH ??

bodhi — Tue, 01 Aug 2023 23:09:41 -0500

> i know this is an old post - however - i have just
> read it//// Its thanks to this site that i managed
> to use it as a reference to an employer and gained
> myself a linux admin role for a couple of years
> when i fancied a break from working in security
> and networking

Cool!

Re: Pogoplug No Longer Allows You to Enable SSH ??

Gravelrash — Mon, 31 Jul 2023 09:42:28 -0500

i know this is an old post - however - i have just read it//// Its thanks to this site that i managed to use it as a reference to an employer and gained myself a linux admin role for a couple of years when i fancied a break from working in security and networking

never underestimate the power of the pogoplug :-)

Re: Pogoplug No Longer Allows You to Enable SSH ??

bluzfanmr1 — Tue, 16 May 2023 13:03:29 -0500

bodhi Wrote:
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> asterix Wrote:
> -------------------------------------------------------
> > throw out serveral poloplugs last month, pi
> much
> > better for DIY hobbies.
>
> Hey, good for you.
>
> But perhaps you should not treat pogoplugs like
> garbage? Once upon the time, they were a good
> vehicle for you to learn Embbeded Linux hacking
> :))

I have to second this as I have acquired 5 various Pogoplug's over the years and still use them for Time Machine backups, Pi-hole servers and just all around learning. I knew nothing about Linux before owning them. Thanks to these devices, and espcially this website, I consider myself a very experienced Linux user today!

Re: Pogoplug No Longer Allows You to Enable SSH ??

bodhi — Mon, 15 May 2023 19:50:50 -0500

asterix Wrote:
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> throw out serveral poloplugs last month, pi much
> better for DIY hobbies.

Hey, good for you.

But perhaps you should not treat pogoplugs like garbage? Once upon the time, they were a good vehicle for you to learn Embbeded Linux hacking :))

Re: Pogoplug No Longer Allows You to Enable SSH ??

asterix — Mon, 15 May 2023 19:06:05 -0500

throw out serveral poloplugs last month, pi much better for DIY hobbies.

Re: Pogoplug No Longer Allows You to Enable SSH ??

bodhi — Mon, 10 Apr 2023 18:11:43 -0500

@mrc333777,

> what would i look for on this pogoplug series 4
> for the https stuff?

If you cannot log in stock OS, then run kwboot with the u-boot-2017.07-tld-1 image in my release thread. And then boot into the Debian rootfs Debian-5.13.6-kirkwood-tld-1-rootfs-bodhi.tar.bz2 (26 Sept 2021) on USB.

Basically bypass everything about stock, and go straight to Debian that way. And then install u-boot-2017.07-tld-1 while running Debian.

Re: Pogoplug No Longer Allows You to Enable SSH ??

mrc333777 — Mon, 10 Apr 2023 17:23:44 -0500

Gravelrash Wrote:
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> I dont posess a pogoplug since moving a couple of
> years ago - however, i dont see a reason why it
> cant be enabled. you owuld need to find the file
> that hosts the httpd config and amend there then
> save

thats the thing, i am a noob and been buying up different things listed in these forums to toy around with.
so far i got the kace m300 working and barely started on the dreamplug. got 2 more different pogoplugs coming.
what would i look for on this pogoplug series 4 for the https stuff?

Re: Pogoplug No Longer Allows You to Enable SSH ??

Gravelrash — Mon, 10 Apr 2023 17:19:15 -0500

I dont posess a pogoplug since moving a couple of years ago - however, i dont see a reason why it cant be enabled. you owuld need to find the file that hosts the httpd config and amend there then save

Re: Pogoplug No Longer Allows You to Enable SSH ??

mrc333777 — Sat, 08 Apr 2023 18:54:39 -0500

so i got a Pogoplug series 4 pogo-v4.a3.01 off ebay for 5 bucks. read some stuff here in the forums.
soldered a uart cable, enabled ssh. just for the heck of it, can https: / port 443 be re-enabled to toy around
with the backdoor from the web interface? only ports that are open are 22, 23, 80, 3333, 3334.

HBPlug Diagnostics
Diagnostics only available over HTTPS

Re: Pogoplug No Longer Allows You to Enable SSH ??

bodhi — Mon, 06 Nov 2017 16:09:18 -0600

Gravelrash Wrote:
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> huge Wrote:
> -------------------------------------------------------
> > Can I just connect the Ground wire from my
> CP2102
> > adapter to a piece of exposed metal like the SD
> > card cage or the ethernet connector, or is
> there
> > another spot on the board where I can make an
> > easier Ground connection?
>
> Any exposed metal grounding point can be used, the
> ones you have identified are suitable,
>
> > I've heard people talk about using "pins" to
> > connect to the board - can anyone point me to a
> > description or instructions of how to do that
> or
> > even just what such a pin would look like?
>
> Some on here have used shirt pins.... yes the pins
> you get when you unpack a new shirt.
>
> *waves in JoeyPogoplug direction for links to his
> amazing shirt pin through the board hack :))

Actually it was me:) but I dont have any pics.

Perhaps Joey has tried that?

Re: Pogoplug No Longer Allows You to Enable SSH ??

Gravelrash — Mon, 06 Nov 2017 08:36:40 -0600

huge Wrote:
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> Can I just connect the Ground wire from my CP2102
> adapter to a piece of exposed metal like the SD
> card cage or the ethernet connector, or is there
> another spot on the board where I can make an
> easier Ground connection?

Any exposed metal grounding point can be used, the ones you have identified are suitable,

> I've heard people talk about using "pins" to
> connect to the board - can anyone point me to a
> description or instructions of how to do that or
> even just what such a pin would look like?

Some on here have used shirt pins.... yes the pins you get when you unpack a new shirt.

*waves in JoeyPogoplug direction for links to his amazing shirt pin through the board hack :))

Re: Pogoplug No Longer Allows You to Enable SSH ??

bodhi — Sat, 04 Nov 2017 15:58:01 -0500

> Lastly and unrelated, can someone definitively
> settle the question of whether, with a CP210x
> adapter, you should connect RX->RX & TX->TX or
> swap/cross them? I first heard they should be
> swapped, then learned that with a CP210x they
> should NOT be swapped, and then I've seen
> conflicting claims. The most convincing
> statements indicate NOT swapping RX&TX, but I
> could swear that I was making serial connections
> work before I read that.

Definitive answer: The CP210x have wires already crossed. So you should not swap TX and RX.

Re: Pogoplug No Longer Allows You to Enable SSH ??

huge — Sat, 04 Nov 2017 15:15:42 -0500

Having contributed some humor in my last post, now I have a question or two...

I have two Pogoplug Mobiles that I currently can't make serial connections to. They both seem to have the little blob of solder missing from the GND connector on the circuit board (the other three dots all have a little bit of solder bulging up from the board). I don't have a soldering iron so I've been just taping bare wires, which has worked on another Pogo Mobile, but I think I'm just not getting a good connection on the two boards that have the missing solder on the GND terminal.

Can I just connect the Ground wire from my CP2102 adapter to a piece of exposed metal like the SD card cage or the ethernet connector, or is there another spot on the board where I can make an easier Ground connection?

I've heard people talk about using "pins" to connect to the board - can anyone point me to a description or instructions of how to do that or even just what such a pin would look like?

Lastly and unrelated, can someone definitively settle the question of whether, with a CP210x adapter, you should connect RX->RX & TX->TX or swap/cross them? I first heard they should be swapped, then learned that with a CP210x they should NOT be swapped, and then I've seen conflicting claims. The most convincing statements indicate NOT swapping RX&TX, but I could swear that I was making serial connections work before I read that.

Re: Pogoplug No Longer Allows You to Enable SSH ??

huge — Sat, 04 Nov 2017 14:59:17 -0500

Submitted for your amusement: Check out the date on this "Knowledge Base" entry on how to enable SSH access on Pogoplug.com. Did they really post these instructions a week ago?

https://support.pogoplug.com/hc/en-us/articles/202307860-How-do-I-enable-SSH-

In case they delete it, it has the old "enable SSH over the internet" instructions, which as far as I know stopped working at least a year ago:

How do I enable SSH?

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CatherineC
October 28, 2017 00:50
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SSH is disabled by default for security reasons.

To enable SSH, go to Settings in the Web interface, select Security Settings, and then select the checkbox for Enable SSH for this Pogoplog-enabled device. A dialog box will open and ask you to assign a password for the root user.

 

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Note: While SSH is applicable, this method of access subjects the device to firmware changes and therefore, voids Pogoplug 1-year warranty

I sent them a nasty support ticket message, which I'm guessing will never be seen by human eyes.

Re: Pogoplug No Longer Allows You to Enable SSH ??

cdlenfert — Fri, 03 Nov 2017 11:07:03 -0500

The backdoor method didn't work for me for a recent Pro and Mobile model that I purchased. I suppose it's possible it works still on a very specific firmware version, but both my devices were on older firmware 2.x and 3.x (not latest) and the backdoor failed.

Re: Pogoplug No Longer Allows You to Enable SSH ??

Gravelrash — Tue, 31 Oct 2017 06:16:11 -0500

mike Wrote:
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> I will continue my searches including the
> "pogoplug v3" description.
>
> Thanks for any info and feedback.

have a look here and go to the "backdoor method"

http://blog.qnology.com/2015/04/hacking-pogoplug-v3oxnas-proclassic.html

Re: Pogoplug No Longer Allows You to Enable SSH ??

mike — Mon, 30 Oct 2017 12:33:14 -0500

Using a serial connection..presumes a level of expertise I am sorely lacking (at this point).
Has anyone attempted to introduce a hack thru the TCP-IP connector that would activate its inherent NAS capability.
This approach would "simply" perform the same task as accomplished by their Pogo..website.

Reportedly this model only has 128m of memory and this might limit its ability to load a functional linux operating system.
Much has been discussed about problems activating Ssh and then loading uboot and the Linux OS on similar units with greater on board memory. I am a real newbee when it comes to this approach. I haven't found much written about this model.

If possible i would like to attack the Pogoplug's disfunctional NAS problem directly. I was hoping one of their engineers or others would provide a patch to uncripple this unit if the website/product has been abandoned.

I will continue my searches including the "pogoplug v3" description.

Thanks for any info and feedback.

Re: Pogoplug No Longer Allows You to Enable SSH ??

mike — Mon, 30 Oct 2017 12:01:54 -0500

I pinged successfully its IP address, but using firefox to open the same address produced no response. The Pogo...com could not find the device. I am not sure why, or even if the web site is still functional. I wonder if an alternative method can be found to simply turn on its designed NAS functionality accomplishing the same activation task that was to be performed by the Pogo website.

Re: Pogoplug No Longer Allows You to Enable SSH ??

Gravelrash — Mon, 30 Oct 2017 08:04:46 -0500

with the P-21 or as its known around here PogoPlug version 3... the way to gain access to the device is through a uart convertor and access to the serial console

Re: Pogoplug No Longer Allows You to Enable SSH ??

feas — Sun, 29 Oct 2017 23:53:40 -0500

It will depend on the firmware that was loaded into it. You might have a version before the update that did that. did you try to ssh into it or try the web browser method to access it?

Re: Pogoplug No Longer Allows You to Enable SSH ??

mike — Sun, 29 Oct 2017 23:32:34 -0500

Has anybody had luck with the "Pogo-P21" as marked on the box of a grey unit $10 at Goodwill.
Did not know it was crippled by design per Cloud Engines,Inc. Just hope to learn a bit while "fixing" it.
Thanks for any info regarding this possibility. (only 128m memory according to a website)

Re: Pogoplug No Longer Allows You to Enable SSH ??

Gravelrash — Wed, 18 Oct 2017 06:20:58 -0500

you need to use a micro ribbon cable.bare the ends and tape as best you can

Re: Pogoplug No Longer Allows You to Enable SSH ??

huge — Tue, 17 Oct 2017 21:43:31 -0500

november17 Wrote:
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> ...
>
> Really though, I got the stuff I needed to
> establish a serial connection for about $5 total
> and didn't even bother soldering, just taped the
> pins on.Its not that complicated.

Sorry to reply to an old thread, but can you (or anyone) describe how you did it with tape? My soldering skills are a bit rusty (ie 30+ years of none) but looking at the circuit board of my Mobile I can't see how I could tape anything on and hope for secure contact.

thanks!

Re: Pogoplug No Longer Allows You to Enable SSH ??

JoeyPogoPlugE02 — Tue, 21 Mar 2017 17:37:02 -0500

tiny Wrote:
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> What is the username for the SSH login and passwor for the Pogoplug Pro?

root/ceadmin are specified at Qui's for the E02, Pro and v4

Re: Pogoplug No Longer Allows You to Enable SSH ??

tiny — Tue, 21 Mar 2017 17:27:28 -0500

What is the username for the SSH login and passwor for the Pogoplug Pro? i tried with "root" and is not working.

Re: Pogoplug No Longer Allows You to Enable SSH ??

habibie — Fri, 02 Dec 2016 12:18:14 -0600

rayknight Wrote:
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> habibie Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > november17 Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > The problem is, the update is only available
> > > through an SSH connection to
> > > https://downloads.pogoplugcom, So older
> devices
> > > fresh out of the box will never update.
> (there
> > is
> > > no patch for it and if you contact customer
> > > service they will straight up ignore you -
> > believe
> > > me I tried).
> > >
> > The link you provided above is a 404. R U sure
> it
> > is a correct link?
>
> Perhaps he meant
> https://pogopl
> ug.com/downloads which is a valid URL.
>
> Ray
>
That like is alive but no updates available.

Re: Pogoplug No Longer Allows You to Enable SSH ??

rayknight — Fri, 02 Dec 2016 12:10:04 -0600

habibie Wrote:
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> november17 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The problem is, the update is only available
> > through an SSH connection to
> > https://downloads.pogoplugcom, So older devices
> > fresh out of the box will never update. (there
> is
> > no patch for it and if you contact customer
> > service they will straight up ignore you -
> believe
> > me I tried).
> >
> The link you provided above is a 404. R U sure it
> is a correct link?

Perhaps he meant https://pogoplug.com/downloads which is a valid URL.

Ray

Re: Pogoplug No Longer Allows You to Enable SSH ??

habibie — Fri, 02 Dec 2016 07:36:16 -0600

november17 Wrote:
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> The problem is, the update is only available
> through an SSH connection to
> https://downloads.pogoplugcom, So older devices
> fresh out of the box will never update. (there is
> no patch for it and if you contact customer
> service they will straight up ignore you - believe
> me I tried).
>
The link you provided above is a 404. R U sure it is a correct link?

Re: Pogoplug No Longer Allows You to Enable SSH ??

november17 — Fri, 02 Dec 2016 02:57:51 -0600

SSH isn't disabled on the website, the pogoplug.com SSL security certificate that resides in older versions of Pogoplugs is expired. Unless there is a secure SSL connection, the "Enable SSH" option will not appear on their website. That's why some people are still saying they can see the option and some are saying they can't.

The new SSL security certificate is available with the current pogoplug update.

The problem is, the update is only available through an SSH connection to https://downloads.pogoplugcom, So older devices fresh out of the box will never update. (there is no patch for it and if you contact customer service they will straight up ignore you - believe me I tried).

I find it kind of disturbing that there is an "Enable SSH" checkbox on their website but when stock pogoplugs don't connect with https it will force http. Kind of a false sense of security there and a HUGE data security risk for people that are using an older non-updated pogoplug to access sensitive files...

If you want an older pogoplug that connects to SSH for easy flashing without having to crack it open, your best bet is to roll the dice on a used one and hope it was connected to the internet between the time the security cert expired and when the last update rolled out.

Really though, I got the stuff I needed to establish a serial connection for about $5 total and didn't even bother soldering, just taped the pins on.Its not that complicated.