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Old GoFlex Net new... never started... but pogoplug is dead..

Posted by fredk 
Old GoFlex Net new... never started... but pogoplug is dead..
April 20, 2020 05:36AM
Hi,

i just found a new, never used GoFlex net i bought long time ago with my dockstar... i want to use it just for local NAS, no cloud. But as pogoplug is not existing anymore, is there a way to activate it ? can i install debian on it like that from a fresh new unused goflex net ? The thing is i can't acces it : ssh do not work / web page neither. I have IP and MAC through the router... but that's all.... is it totally dead as pogoplug do not exist anymore to activate it ?

Thank you.
Re: Old GoFlex Net new... never started... but pogoplug is dead..
April 20, 2020 05:24PM
fredk,


pogoplug.com is no longer available. So you cannot enable SSH through its web site.

It might worth a try to see if you can log in using the old approach for GoGlex Home. It is described here at Arch Linux ARM site (click on Installation)

https://archlinuxarm.org/platforms/armv5/seagate-goflex-home

If the above is not working then you have to connect serial console. Then it is easy to install Debian.

-bodhi
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Re: Old GoFlex Net new... never started... but pogoplug is dead..
April 22, 2020 07:56AM
Hi Bodhi,


thank you for the feedback. I was afraid of such an answer ;(
the thing is that i have the IP and MAC, but can't access to any web interface... http://IP show me an error.... SSH to the IP show me a connection refused... I haven't tried the reset but basically the device is fresh new;;. taken out of the box few days ago... so not set i guess....

I thought at least i would have a local interface....

for serial, my competencies in soldering are.... let's say..... awfully low ! Are there serial cable all made that can be bought ? and without needing of soldering ?



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/22/2020 07:56AM by fredk.
Re: Old GoFlex Net new... never started... but pogoplug is dead..
April 22, 2020 09:12AM
fredk Wrote:

>
> for serial, my competencies in soldering are....
> let's say..... awfully low ! Are there serial
> cable all made that can be bought ? and without
> needing of soldering ?

Ebay or Amazon. I got a CP2102 USB module on Amazon shipped with Prime for about $4. This is the one I got last week, though is currently not available. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07MY2B4VJ

The leads are a little thicker but being careful, you can insert the three needed ones (ground, Rx and Tx).
Re: Old GoFlex Net new... never started... but pogoplug is dead..
April 22, 2020 04:42PM
fredk,

Open up the box and see if the header is already installed by the manufactorer. Most GoFlex Net have it. So no soldering needed.

We talked about serial console converter here:
https://forum.doozan.com/read.php?8,13263

Basically, the model is CP2xx or PL3xx. You can find it on eBay, or Amazon. su_A_ve have a good one. CP2102 usually simpler than PL3xxx.

-bodhi
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Re: Old GoFlex Net new... never started... but pogoplug is dead..
April 22, 2020 10:29PM
If you have raspberry pi, you can just use Rpi as the serial adapter---you just need to install raspbian, boot it, run raspi-config to activate serial, but don't use serial port to login, then use three cables to connect Rpi's TX/RX/GND to your box's RX/TX/GND, run minicom or picocom whatever on Rpi...
Re: Old GoFlex Net new... never started... but pogoplug is dead..
April 23, 2020 08:20AM
@David : Thank you but I don't have any raspberry... i have 2 dockstars but no RPi... :(
Re: Old GoFlex Net new... never started... but pogoplug is dead..
April 23, 2020 08:22AM
Got it. In fact i have nothing to losse as warranty is gone far away... I'll try this. And i guess 5 dollars is ok to try to revival my goflex... I bought it long time ago to replace any of my dockstar in case of failure.... but they are still runing for almost 10 years now without - almost - any issue !
Re: Old GoFlex Net new... never started... but pogoplug is dead..
April 23, 2020 09:23AM
Your dockstar has serial ... You can use that...
Re: Old GoFlex Net new... never started... but pogoplug is dead..
April 23, 2020 04:41PM
fredk,

First thing: open the box to check to see if there is a header already installed. If there is no header, then see if the pins are empty holes or soldered buttons (holes are good).

Since you can't do soldering, that would tell you whether you should buy serial module converter.

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In the past, even with soldered buttons, I have connected a temporary serial console with 3 shirt pins, 3 test clips. The test clips have wires already attached when you buy it. So I connect the 3 wires from serial module converter to the 3 clips. And then clip the 3 shirt pins. Get everything ready:

- Plug in the serial converter to the host box.
- type the picocom/minicom command on terminal shell, but dont execute it.
- Now press each of the 3 shirt pins to the soldered buttons. Just enough to hold the pins (solder are soft enough).
- Execute the picocom command
- Power up the box.
- Log in to stock OS, and activate SSH.

If the pins fall out during this, then repeat the whole process. Hopefully, the pins are going to stay long enough for a few minutes that allow you to activate SSH in stock.

-bodhi
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Re: Old GoFlex Net new... never started... but pogoplug is dead..
April 26, 2020 01:42AM
Ok . I opened it. seems there is a header. So first step is good.
Thenk i wsaw this : woudl it be ok ?

https://www.amazon.fr/Convertisseur-Converter-Module-Built-CP2102/dp/B00AFRXKFU?ref_=nav_ya_signin&;

Do you think the wired would be ok ? so no soldering at all and i have everything to try ?

Funny as i am doing this just for the fun, as the goflex is really weak in performances etc... and i don't even know how to plug a hard drive as i don't have any goflex case and there is only one USB.. so for the boot stick :) but it is funny... we'll see if the fun is worth 10 euros :)
Re: Old GoFlex Net new... never started... but pogoplug is dead..
April 26, 2020 03:45AM
fredk,
>
> https://www.amazon.fr/Convertisseur-Converter-Module-Built-CP2102/dp/B00AFRXKFU?ref_=nav_ya_signin&;
>
> Do you think the wired would be ok ? so no
> soldering at all and i have everything to try ?

That CP2102 looks good. No soldering needed.

And remember that you should only connect 3 wires (GND, TXD, RXD). The 3.3V power on the header should not be connected.

> Funny as i am doing this just for the fun, as the
> goflex is really weak in performances etc... and i
> don't even know how to plug a hard drive as i
> don't have any goflex case

You can plug in a bare 2.5" HDD/SSD without using a case.

> and there is only one
> USB.. so for the boot stick :) but it is funny...
> we'll see if the fun is worth 10 euros :)

It's a crucial first step in learning to hack embedded Linux. It will be very handy when you start playing with larger NAS when you really need it.

-bodhi
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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/26/2020 03:46AM by bodhi.
Re: Old GoFlex Net new... never started... but pogoplug is dead..
June 08, 2020 11:36AM
Hi, still waiting for the USB to Serial pack.... hurry up cause my dockstar is showing signs of death....
Re: Old GoFlex Net new... never started... but pogoplug is dead..
June 27, 2020 07:54AM
Hi finally received it !!! Can't try it this week-end but i hope doing this during the week....

I started to read, and just a question. Is it the good order of things :

- activate ssh
- install uboot for booting from usb
- install debian or something else.. ?

I really need just a "simple" nas, *smb shares as my other dockstar is starting to show weakness... but i have another dockstar with a debian for all other stuff... so just need to replace the dockstar with smb storage... so is it ok (and possible) to use just the goflex software for that ? So perhaps i don't have to install anything.... even though i'm stil not sure i will be able to activate it... as they shut there servers...
Re: Old GoFlex Net new... never started... but pogoplug is dead..
June 27, 2020 04:05PM
fredk,

> I really need just a "simple" nas, *smb shares as
> my other dockstar is starting to show weakness...
> but i have another dockstar with a debian for all
> other stuff... so just need to replace the
> dockstar with smb storage... so is it ok (and
> possible) to use just the goflex software for that
> ? So perhaps i don't have to install anything....
> even though i'm stil not sure i will be able to
> activate it... as they shut there servers...

You need to, at the minimum, install new Debian rootfs on USB or HDD, you can run stock u-boot with it.

Stock GF Net OS is no longer usable for anything other being than a rescue system.

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To make sure you can rescue this box if you messed up, or you should install new u-boot, try kwboot using the latest u-boot image for GF Net:

https://forum.doozan.com/read.php?3,12381

Follow the example here:

https://forum.doozan.com/read.php?3,51739,51919#msg-51919

This UART booting is the first thing you should test if you have serial console. Once you can do this, the box is almost impossible to brick.

-bodhi
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