Debian popularity-contest package
September 07, 2025 04:52PM
Suggested by sudos here.

To help making our Kirkwood systems visible to Debian upstream, please consider installing this popularity-contest package.

The reason I have not recommended this before because it will automatically generate a anonymous periodic report to Debian some statistics about the architecture of and the packages installed on your system. It's a "phone home" kind of thing everybody wants to avoid. So I did not include it in the basic rootfs.

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Description-en: Vote for your favourite packages automatically
The popularity-contest package sets up a cron job that will
periodically anonymously submit to the Debian developers
statistics about the most used Debian packages on this system.
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This information helps Debian make decisions such as which packages
should go on the first CD. It also lets Debian improve future versions
of the distribution so that the most popular packages are the ones which
are installed automatically for new users.


As you might have known, armel architecture was marked for removal in Debian 14 (Debian 13 Trixe is supported until about 3 years from now). This is due to lack of maintainers' inteterest. And the trend in Linux kernel is also favoring phasing out 32-bit SoCs.

Running this package is not going to change minds about armel being EOL in Debian. However, as mentioned here by 1000001101000, it might persuade some maintainers to make it available as unofficial architecture in Debian Ports.

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Re: Debian popularity-contest package
September 27, 2025 06:46AM
Hi bodhi and community,

yesterday, I tried several ways that were suggested by Gemini and ChatGPT to find mirrors for armel (still on Bullseye), since running the original sources.list (with the security part modified, so it can be found), i.e.

deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian bullseye main
deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian bullseye main

deb https://security.debian.org/debian-security bullseye-security main contrib non-free
deb-src https://security.debian.org/debian-security bullseye-security main contrib non-free
#deb http://security.debian.org/ bullseye/updates main contrib non-free
#deb-src  http://security.debian.org/ bullseye/updates main contrib non-free

deb     http://http.debian.net/debian bullseye-updates main contrib
deb-src http://http.debian.net/debian bullseye-updates main contrib

gave me this:

N: Das Laden der konfigurierten Datei »main/binary-armel/Packages« wird übersprungen, da das Depot »http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian bullseye InRelease« die Architektur »armel« nicht unterstützt.
N: Das Laden der konfigurierten Datei »main/binary-armel/Packages« wird übersprungen, da das Depot »https://security.debian.org/debian-security bullseye-security InRelease« die Architektur »armel« nicht unterstützt.
N: Das Laden der konfigurierten Datei »contrib/binary-armel/Packages« wird übersprungen, da das Depot »https://security.debian.org/debian-security bullseye-security InRelease« die Architektur »armel« nicht unterstützt.
N: Das Laden der konfigurierten Datei »non-free/binary-armel/Packages« wird übersprungen, da das Depot »https://security.debian.org/debian-security bullseye-security InRelease« die Architektur »armel« nicht unterstützt.

(my System is in German, as you can see) - anyway, the gist is that armel is not supported anymore by the main and the security servers (only bullseye-updates on the bottom one are ok). So, seeing here that armel should be supported until three years from now and even with later Deban releases than 11, I was wondering what a correct sources.list should look like for the armel boxes? Unfortunately, trying to model it after the one given for bookworm in this post (with bookworm replaced by bullseye) did not help.

Since all I wanted was to install gddrescue, I reverted to the buster repos for that, which let me install the package, so I am basically fine, but still, it would be nice to know which are the official repos to use for bullseye.

Cheers and thanks bodhi and every one else who is putting in the work for still keeping this all alive!

chessplayer

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Re: Debian popularity-contest package
September 27, 2025 02:33PM
chessplayer,

I think these are better. Try replacing bookworm with bullseye.
deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
deb https://security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
deb  http://http.debian.net/debian bookworm-updates main contrib non-free non-free-firmware

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Re: Debian popularity-contest package
September 27, 2025 03:29PM
bodhi,

thanks for your reply, but as I wrote in the original post, I tried that as well and it did not work.

Best regards,

chessplayer

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Re: Debian popularity-contest package
September 27, 2025 04:50PM
chessplayer,

Unfortunately looks like gddrescue is no longer in armel buster. I think it was intentionally removed. Because armel is not supported in the LTS buster.

https://packages.debian.org/bullseye/gddrescue

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Download gddrescue

Architecture Version Package Size Installed Size Files

When I selected bookworm or trixie, gddrescue is in armel.

https://packages.debian.org/bookworm/gddrescue
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Download gddrescue

Architecture Package Size Installed Size Files
armel 136.3 kB 429.0 kB

So either find an old mirror somewhere (as you mentioned), or upgrade to bookworm/trixie.

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fgh
Re: Debian popularity-contest package
December 13, 2025 05:24PM
I have an old NSA325 i bring out in daylight from time to time. Plan now is to put it on 24/7-work offsite for a while. So I returned back here for some proper help and info. Ive just updated to your latest kernel and Debian 12.12.

Thanks so much for your great support and amazing work for this little device! I'll install popularity-contest before I ship it.


Merry Christmas guys.
Re: Debian popularity-contest package
December 15, 2025 01:16AM
fgh,

> I have an old NSA325 i bring out in daylight from
> time to time. Plan now is to put it on 24/7-work
> offsite for a while. So I returned back here for
> some proper help and info. Ive just updated to
> your latest kernel and Debian 12.12.

Glad to hear!

-bodhi
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