Debian/U-boot? on the USI Topkick-1281p2 (Tonidoplug2)
June 22, 2022 03:49AM
Searching around on eBay I came across a $12 very peculiar item mis-categorized in the industrial PLC section... and doing some digging in the forum search, doesn't seem like anyone has talked about this device before, so here we go:

It seems to be made by Universal Scientific Industrial Co., as in the same USI that is the OEM of the Kace M300 that Dell contracted from them with no expense spared in terms of build quality. Inside, the specs seem to be the usual assortment: a Kirkwood at 2GHz (probably another Armada), 512MB of DDR3, 512MB of flash with a 512K secondary flash for uboot, USB2 x1, and SATA2 x1 for a single 2.5" drive.

But wait, there's more! To top it all off... WiFi. the thing has an SDIO-connected Marvell N150 chipset inside so says TechInfoDepot Wiki. The ebay listing also seems to immediately show off the docs that come with it and immediately it shows off the uboot flash partitions and such. Considering these aren't Tonido branded, I'm assuming this is going to be a basic Debian install on the flash drive included.The wiki also lists the root password for the device's stock OS being: "nosoup4u".
No soup for you! You come back in one year! NEXT!

Here's also the web archive page for the product direct from USI Shanghai's site circa 2015.

I've found a boot log from someone in 2012 that accessed it via serial here. And at that, considering there's already a dtb file for it with the bodhi kernels, I'm guessing running modern Debian on it might be a piece of cake. Might be. as in, definitely a Method B first-boot to start and see what breaks...! Aside from that, even more special, is that it seems, for all intents and purposes, the mainline Debian kernel 100% supports this device, or so says the sparsely-updated Debian Wiki.

Questioning if I should pick one up... seeing as the M300 outdoes it in the RAM department probably not, but it's yet another device with a 2GHz Kirkwood and knowing it's at least in some part related to the M300 gives me some hope.
There's no pictures of the inside of one of these things so I think this ebay listing is a lucky find for anyone that wants to go and grab one and do the honors while I fight off the inner demon telling me to spend all of my money on hackable devices... :D

Attached are images from the ebay listing for future clarity, as it won't be up forever.



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Re: Debian/U-boot? on the USI Topkick-1281p2 (Tonidoplug2)
June 22, 2022 08:54AM
Looks like kirkwood @ 2Ghz with DDR2 memory

https://wiki.debian.org/ArmEabiPort

so it is a shrinked version of M300 (both accept one 2.5" HD, but M300 has 2GB memory, this one has 512MB memory. The better part: this one has more flash, but it is not so useful now)

I guess M300 is a better deal. @ 512MB memory, you even can not compile a kernel without swap... (It will stop at lzma step...)
Re: Debian/U-boot? on the USI Topkick-1281p2 (Tonidoplug2)
June 22, 2022 11:03AM
daviddyer Wrote:
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> Looks like kirkwood @ 2Ghz with DDR2 memory

DDR3. 2x H5TQ2G83DFR-H9C chips. definitely DDR3. Hynix datasheet suggests in the naming matrix that this is a normal power consumption 256Mbitx8 with "commercial temperature range" and -H9* denotes DDR3-1333 9-9-9. Probably running that RAM at 1066 for what it's worth, as with what has been identified in the past, DDR3 support on the Armada class Kirkwood SoCs only supports up to DDR3-1066 officially.

> so it is a shrinked version of M300 (both accept
> one 2.5" HD, but M300 has 2GB memory, this one has
> 512MB memory. The better part: this one has more
> flash, but it is not so useful now)

onboard flash is always a nice thing for a rescue system of OpenWRT, and 512MB would actually allow for more options in the Debian department as well for rescue.

> I guess M300 is a better deal. @ 512MB memory, you
> even can not compile a kernel without swap... (It
> will stop at lzma step...)

I... don't know why one would ever compile a kernel without swap space active.
That seems like a surefire recipe for failure, especially when you're dealing with something as crucial as the kernel.
even on a machine with say, 16GB of RAM doing the compile, I'd still have swap space. regardless of SSD wear, it's just overall good practice.
Re: Debian/U-boot? on the USI Topkick-1281p2 (Tonidoplug2)
June 22, 2022 03:25PM
DDR2 / DDR3 speed doesn''t make big difference. Capacity is more important. The CPU is kind of slow, but 2GHz is good! M300's performance is noticeably better than Goflex Home.


After these boxes damaged a few of my flash drives, I usually just run them on NFS root, so no swap... swapfile on NFS will cause DIO error.

Flash drives are for testing only, not for the long run. I run these boxes on NFS or hard drive. (mainly the old hard drives from laptops).



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 06/22/2022 03:32PM by daviddyer.
Re: Debian/U-boot? on the USI Topkick-1281p2 (Tonidoplug2)
June 22, 2022 03:31PM
The Techdepot says it's 800Mhz, not 2Ghz like M300. 1/4 of the RAM. NEWIT product description confirms it "POWER EFFICIENT
TonidoPlug2 is based on Marvell Armada 310 chipset which draws only 1.2 watt and offers GHz level performance (~800 MHz). TP2 power consumption costs approx. 2 dollars to run 24/7/365 days (Individual results may vary)."

Another potential issue, looks like the wifi/bt is the same as Dreamplug and Guruplug, have been unable to get those two to work simultaneously with modern kernels.

The built in 2.5 hard drive cage is nice easy access. Like that.

Dollar to dollar M300 much better more powerful. Would consider it though for $15 shipped.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/22/2022 03:39PM by LeggoMyEggo.
Re: Debian/U-boot? on the USI Topkick-1281p2 (Tonidoplug2)
June 22, 2022 03:34PM
Speaking of price, Ctera C200 can be $16 shipped. (Best offer. With power supply, but no back door).
Re: Debian/U-boot? on the USI Topkick-1281p2 (Tonidoplug2)
June 22, 2022 03:44PM
Can't wait to see cheap dual core 64 bit processor 2gb RAM SBC devices become sub 25 dollar eBay scores someday.
Re: Debian/U-boot? on the USI Topkick-1281p2 (Tonidoplug2)
June 22, 2022 04:00PM
Long time ago, those 1GB Quad core Rock64 SBCs were really good. It also had 5V3A power supply, ugly case, i2c 1602 lcd, 16GB or 8GB SD card.
I got three @ amazon for $12 each.
And those M300 used to be $15 each.

The good old days...
Re: Debian/U-boot? on the USI Topkick-1281p2 (Tonidoplug2)
June 22, 2022 05:06PM
This USI Topkick has been done and should be on the support list.

There it is:

Quote

Linux Kernel 5.17.x Kirkwood package and rootfs for GoFlex Home/Net, Pogoplug E02/Mobile/V4, iConnect, Dockstar, Sheevaplug, NSA320, NSA320S, NSA325, NSA310S, NSA310, Topkick, Netgear Stora, ASUS-M25, Iomega ix4-200d, QiZhiTong 501mv2, HP Thin Client T5325, LG N1T1, Linksys EA4500, Lenovo/Iomega ix2-ng, Toshiba Canvio Home NAS, Lenovo Iomega EZ, Dell KACE M300, Freecom Silverstore HNCN2, DNS-320-B1, Medion P89634, Netgear Ready NAS Duo v2, Lenovo/Iomega ix2-dl, CTera C220 V1, and all other Kirkwood plugs that are already in the mainline.

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Re: Debian/U-boot? on the USI Topkick-1281p2 (Tonidoplug2)
June 22, 2022 05:31PM
Leggo,

> Can't wait to see cheap dual core 64 bit processor
> 2gb RAM SBC devices become sub 25 dollar eBay
> scores someday.

That day should be near :) for some of the Realtek SoC boards. It's a lot cheaper than Marvell SoCs.

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Re: Debian/U-boot? on the USI Topkick-1281p2 (Tonidoplug2)
June 22, 2022 09:26PM
bodhi Wrote:
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> This USI Topkick has been done and should be on
> the support list.
>
> There it is:
>
>
Quote

.......,
> Lenovo/Iomega ix2-dl, CTera C220 V1, and all other
> Kirkwood plugs that are already in the
> mainline.

Hi, bodhi, just found one typo here, C220 should be C200
Re: Debian/U-boot? on the USI Topkick-1281p2 (Tonidoplug2)
June 22, 2022 09:33PM
> Hi, bodhi, just found one typo here, C220 should
> be C200

Thanks David! fixed.

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Re: Debian/U-boot? on the USI Topkick-1281p2 (Tonidoplug2)
June 22, 2022 09:39PM
Quote

Questioning if I should pick one up... seeing as the M300 outdoes it in the RAM department probably not, but it's yet another device with a 2GHz Kirkwood and knowing it's at least in some part related to the M300 gives me some hope.

It's actually also related to Zyxel NSA325, and a few others 6282 SoCs based Kirwood boxes.

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/22/2022 09:39PM by bodhi.
Re: Debian/U-boot? on the USI Topkick-1281p2 (Tonidoplug2)
June 22, 2022 10:53PM
The TechInfoDepot data was taken from my entry on the original WikiDevi created from the device I have. I now contribute to WikiDevi. The processor is an 800 MHz 88F6283.

Ray
Re: Debian/U-boot? on the USI Topkick-1281p2 (Tonidoplug2)
June 24, 2022 05:02AM
bodhi Wrote:
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> This USI Topkick has been done and should be on
> the support list.
>
> There it is:
>
>
Quote

Linux Kernel 5.17.x Kirkwood package and
> rootfs for GoFlex Home/Net, Pogoplug
> E02/Mobile/V4, iConnect, Dockstar, Sheevaplug,
> NSA320, NSA320S, NSA325, NSA310S, NSA310,
> Topkick, Netgear Stora, ASUS-M25, Iomega
> ix4-200d, QiZhiTong 501mv2, HP Thin Client T5325,
> LG N1T1, Linksys EA4500, Lenovo/Iomega ix2-ng,
> Toshiba Canvio Home NAS, Lenovo Iomega EZ, Dell
> KACE M300, Freecom Silverstore HNCN2, DNS-320-B1,
> Medion P89634, Netgear Ready NAS Duo v2,
> Lenovo/Iomega ix2-dl, CTera C220 V1, and all other
> Kirkwood plugs that are already in the
> mainline.


yeah I saw it was on the kernel list, but I didn't see a specific uboot build for it out of the 2017 uboot images available, so I'm assuming one was never conjured? pretty much means it's definitely a method B kernel install.
Re: Debian/U-boot? on the USI Topkick-1281p2 (Tonidoplug2)
June 24, 2022 03:15PM
sudos,

> yeah I saw it was on the kernel list, but I didn't
> see a specific uboot build for it out of the 2017
> uboot images available, so I'm assuming one was
> never conjured? pretty much means it's definitely
> a method B kernel install.

Right! I did not roll a new u-boot for Topkick. It's been a while I can't remember exactly why, probably I was not very interested in doing that for this box because it is too underpower. This is in the same family as the Sheevaplug and Dreamplug (same stock root credential nosoup4u :)

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Re: Debian/U-boot? on the USI Topkick-1281p2 (Tonidoplug2)
June 24, 2022 09:42PM
And bodhi said to Topkick: No new u-boot for you!
Re: Debian/U-boot? on the USI Topkick-1281p2 (Tonidoplug2)
June 24, 2022 10:51PM
daviddyer Wrote:
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> And bodhi said to Topkick: No new u-boot for you!

Yes! u-boot nazis, LOL ... that was a small classic.

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Re: Debian/U-boot? on the USI Topkick-1281p2 (Tonidoplug2)
June 27, 2022 10:43AM
There is a possibility that this device has a 2GHZ processor, if it is a " marvell,kirkwood-88f6282" like Ive seen mentioned in some places about this device. I'm thinking Tornido may have economized USI's original design to better match what they thought the market could afford.
Re: Debian/U-boot? on the USI Topkick-1281p2 (Tonidoplug2)
June 27, 2022 03:14PM
LeggoMyEggo,

> There is a possibility that this device has a 2GHZ
> processor, if it is a " marvell,kirkwood-88f6282"
> like Ive seen mentioned in some places about this
> device. I'm thinking Tornido may have economized
> USI's original design to better match what they
> thought the market could afford.

I think you're right! the kernel said it is a 6282.

Quote

model = "Universal Scientific Industrial Co. Topkick-1281P2";
compatible = "usi,topkick-1281P2", "usi,topkick", "marvell,kirkwood-88f6282", "marvell,kirkwood";

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Re: Debian/U-boot? on the USI Topkick-1281p2 (Tonidoplug2)
June 27, 2022 07:25PM
Guess I'll find out, ordered one.
Re: Debian/U-boot? on the USI Topkick-1281p2 (Tonidoplug2)
June 28, 2022 06:14PM
FYI,

The Marvell 88F6282 SoC official name is Armada 300. But it it just a clone of Kirkwood 88F6281 (armv5te). So we usually refer to it as Kirkwood.

And then Marvell released the Armada SoCs series which are Armada 37x, 38x, XP ..... (armv7, Cortex A9....). Linux kernel conventional name for these SoCs family is MVEBU.

And then later, Armada 3710 and 3720 SoCs, which are armv8 Cortex A53 (these are 64-bit). Boxes using this series have started to come down in price. When I have tine, I might build kernel for some that are not in mainline yet.

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/28/2022 06:25PM by bodhi.
Re: Debian/U-boot? on the USI Topkick-1281p2 (Tonidoplug2)
June 28, 2022 09:58PM
New page for Topkick1281P2 on WikiDevi with board photos.

Ray
Re: Debian/U-boot? on the USI Topkick-1281p2 (Tonidoplug2)
June 28, 2022 10:29PM
Ray,

Quote
bodhi
>

DTS

>
Quote

model = "Universal Scientific
> Industrial Co. Topkick-1281P2";
> compatible = "usi,topkick-1281P2",
> "usi,topkick", "marvell,kirkwood-88f6282",
> "marvell,kirkwood";

That 6283 SoC Topkick might not be model Topkick-1281P2. Could a different model number, or sub-model number somewhere in u-boot envs or box label.

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Re: Debian/U-boot? on the USI Topkick-1281p2 (Tonidoplug2)
June 28, 2022 10:57PM
Is it easy to make the onboard wireless (Dreamplug, Topkick-1281P2, etc, I guess they both use the sd8787?) work with modern debian? I use the ethernet port, but it is nice to get less errors in dmesg.
Re: Debian/U-boot? on the USI Topkick-1281p2 (Tonidoplug2)
June 28, 2022 11:08PM
daviddyer Wrote:
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> Is it easy to make the onboard wireless
> (Dreamplug, Topkick-1281P2, etc, I guess they both
> use the sd8787?) work with modern debian? I use
> the ethernet port, but it is nice to get less
> errors in dmesg.

For Dreamplug, I can take a look. Not for Topkick, though.

Is sd8787 the Wifi module driver you've seen it somewhere in the Dreamplug log?

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Re: Debian/U-boot? on the USI Topkick-1281p2 (Tonidoplug2)
June 28, 2022 11:24PM
I see in my note:

Quote

Need firmware-libertas package for sd8787_uapsta.bin

Install that and see in dmesg

root@Dreamplug:~# dmesg| grep mwifiex_sdio
[   28.168956] mwifiex_sdio mmc0:0001:1: info: FW download over, size 447384 bytes
[   28.295067] mwifiex_sdio mmc0:0001:1: WLAN FW is active
[   28.816783] mwifiex_sdio mmc0:0001:1: CMD_RESP: cmd 0x242 error, result=0x2
[   28.828171] mwifiex_sdio mmc0:0001:1: mwifiex_process_cmdresp: cmd 0x242 failed during	initialization
[   28.881314] mwifiex_sdio mmc0:0001:1: info: MWIFIEX VERSION: mwifiex 1.0 (14.66.9.p96) 
[   28.905702] mwifiex_sdio mmc0:0001:1: driver_version = mwifiex 1.0 (14.66.9.p96)

root@Dreamplug:~# ifconfig -a

mlan0     Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:24:xx:xx:xx:xx  
          BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
          RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 
          RX bytes:0 (0.0 B)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 B)

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Re: Debian/U-boot? on the USI Topkick-1281p2 (Tonidoplug2)
June 28, 2022 11:25PM
I grabbed the info from two dreamplugs.

Kernel version 5.9.12-kirkwood-tld-1

One without the non-free firmware, it mentions sd8787

Non-free firmware NOT installed.

[   37.134802] systemd-udevd[353]: Using default interface naming scheme 'v240'.
[   37.151152] systemd-udevd[352]: Using default interface naming scheme 'v240'.
[   37.232019] systemd-udevd[352]: link_config: autonegotiation is unset or enabled, the speed and duplex are not writable.
[   37.244315] systemd-udevd[353]: link_config: autonegotiation is unset or enabled, the speed and duplex are not writable.
[   37.397529] orion_wdt: Initial timeout 21 sec
[   37.889566] sd 0:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg0 type 0
[   37.959725] sd 1:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg1 type 0
[   38.034977] sd 2:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg2 type 0
[   38.052454] marvell-cesa f1030000.crypto: CESA device successfully registered
[   38.129676] mc: Linux media interface: v0.10
[   38.433230] systemd-udevd[355]: link_config: autonegotiation is unset or enabled, the speed and duplex are not writable.
[   38.683008] cfg80211: Loading compiled-in X.509 certificates for regulatory database
[   38.738603] Bluetooth: Core ver 2.22
[   38.743010] NET: Registered protocol family 31
[   38.887085] Bluetooth: HCI device and connection manager initialized
[   38.974491] Bluetooth: HCI socket layer initialized
[   38.980102] Bluetooth: L2CAP socket layer initialized
[   39.134547] usbcore: registered new interface driver snd-usb-audio
[   39.174991] Bluetooth: SCO socket layer initialized
[   39.286784] Bluetooth: vendor=0x2df, device=0x911a, class=255, fn=2
[   39.443901] btmrvl_sdio mmc0:0001:2: Direct firmware load for mrvl/sd8787_uapsta.bin failed with error -2
[   39.464774] Bluetooth: request_firmware(firmware) failed, error code = -2
[   39.472296] Bluetooth: Failed to download firmware!
[   39.496119] Bluetooth: Downloading firmware failed!
[   39.510957] Bluetooth: vendor=0x2df, device=0x911b, class=255, fn=3
[   39.562556] cfg80211: Loaded X.509 cert 'sforshee: 00b28ddf47aef9cea7'
[   39.570091] platform regulatory.0: Direct firmware load for regulatory.db failed with error -2
[   39.580496] cfg80211: failed to load regulatory.db
[   39.653880] btmrvl_sdio mmc0:0001:3: Direct firmware load for mrvl/sd8787_uapsta.bin failed with error -2
[   39.664308] Bluetooth: request_firmware(firmware) failed, error code = -2
[   39.672622] Bluetooth: Failed to download firmware!
[   39.678275] Bluetooth: Downloading firmware failed!
[   39.846995] mwifiex_sdio mmc0:0001:1: Direct firmware load for mrvl/sd8787_uapsta.bin failed with error -2
[   39.863110] mwifiex_sdio mmc0:0001:1: Failed to get firmware mrvl/sd8787_uapsta.bin
[   39.871921] mwifiex_sdio mmc0:0001:1: info: _mwifiex_fw_dpc: unregister device
[   42.123735] Adding 499996k swap on /dev/sda2.  Priority:-2 extents:1 across:499996k FS
[   42.397766] EXT4-fs (sda1): re-mounted. Opts: (null)
[   44.623809] EXT4-fs (sda1): re-mounted. Opts: errors=remount-ro
[   54.389775] mv643xx_eth_port mv643xx_eth_port.0 eth0: link up, 1000 Mb/s, full duplex, flow control disabled
[   54.400411] IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE): eth0: link becomes ready

On another dreamplug, I installed the non-free firmware.

Non-free firmware installed.

[   18.203967] mmc0: new high speed SDIO card at address 0001
[   19.521932] process '/usr/bin/ipconfig' started with executable stack
[   25.047381] systemd-udevd[332]: Using default interface naming scheme 'v240'.
[   25.071280] systemd-udevd[351]: Using default interface naming scheme 'v240'.
[   25.254685] systemd-udevd[332]: link_config: autonegotiation is unset or enabled, the speed and duplex are not writable.
[   25.269782] systemd-udevd[351]: link_config: autonegotiation is unset or enabled, the speed and duplex are not writable.
[   25.367410] orion_wdt: Initial timeout 21 sec
[   26.248858] sd 1:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg0 type 0
[   26.443951] marvell-cesa f1030000.crypto: CESA device successfully registered
[   26.573215] systemd-udevd[333]: link_config: autonegotiation is unset or enabled, the speed and duplex are not writable.
[   26.599939] cfg80211: Loading compiled-in X.509 certificates for regulatory database
[   26.681543] Bluetooth: Core ver 2.22
[   26.821391] NET: Registered protocol family 31
[   26.903879] Bluetooth: HCI device and connection manager initialized
[   26.910981] Bluetooth: HCI socket layer initialized
[   27.035272] Bluetooth: L2CAP socket layer initialized
[   27.041081] Bluetooth: SCO socket layer initialized
[   27.181459] Bluetooth: vendor=0x2df, device=0x911a, class=255, fn=2
[   27.458522] cfg80211: Loaded X.509 cert 'sforshee: 00b28ddf47aef9cea7'
[   27.467575] platform regulatory.0: Direct firmware load for regulatory.db failed with error -2
[   27.480596] cfg80211: failed to load regulatory.db
[   27.510770] random: crng init done
[   27.912928] Bluetooth: FW download over, size 466592 bytes
[   28.514827] btmrvl_sdio mmc0:0001:2: sdio device tree data not available
[   28.526362] mwifiex_sdio mmc0:0001:1: WLAN FW already running! Skip FW dnld
[   28.540651] mwifiex_sdio mmc0:0001:1: WLAN FW is active
[   28.550998] Bluetooth: vendor=0x2df, device=0x911b, class=255, fn=3
[   28.662088] mwifiex_sdio mmc0:0001:1: CMD_RESP: cmd 0x242 error, result=0x2
[   28.669856] mwifiex_sdio mmc0:0001:1: mwifiex_process_cmdresp: cmd 0x242 failed during       initialization
[   40.803803] mwifiex_sdio mmc0:0001:1: cmd_wait_q terminated: -110
[   86.120071] systemd-udevd[307]: mmc0:0001:2: Worker [350] processing SEQNUM=1420 is taking a long time
[   86.130248] systemd-udevd[307]: mmc0:0001:3: Worker [365] processing SEQNUM=1421 is taking a long time
[  148.673852] Bluetooth: FW failed to be active in time!
[  148.680387] mwifiex_sdio mmc0:0001:1: info: _mwifiex_fw_dpc: unregister device
[  148.689826] Bluetooth: Downloading firmware failed!



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/28/2022 11:28PM by daviddyer.
Re: Debian/U-boot? on the USI Topkick-1281p2 (Tonidoplug2)
June 29, 2022 07:01AM
That has been my experience with Dreamplug and Guruplug, wifi works but bluetooth firmware won't load reliably. Randomly it will load but upon reboot it will disappear and trying to pair always fails. I had read somewhere this is a known bug but due to the age and slow speed of the embedded wireless modules on these devices not much interest in fixing.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/29/2022 07:08AM by LeggoMyEggo.
Re: Debian/U-boot? on the USI Topkick-1281p2 (Tonidoplug2)
June 29, 2022 11:00AM
I guess I will give up the wireless part of Dreamplug. Thanks to Bodhi and LeggoMyEggo!
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