@Ingmar,

Hey, busy is good :) and congrat on your new job!

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@LeggoMyEggo,

It's probably too late for you about the stock Wifi. But I have some time to look into this today while I open up the PogoPro, and I think I can see the the reason there was some difficulty in getting the stock wifi card to work. The release rootfs Debian-3.17.0-oxnas-tld-1 does not have everything ready out of the box to help in setting up stock wireless. It's my oversight. Although, for users who already has experience in setting up wireless, it can be done (nothing to do with the kernel).

To enable wireless for the released basic rootfs Debian-3.17.0-oxnas-tld-1, these steps should be taken after booting into Debian:

1. Change apt sources:

cat /etc/apt/sources.list

deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian wheezy main  contrib non-free
deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main contrib non-free

2. Install firmware-ralink

apt-get install firmware-ralink

3. Bring up wlan0

ifconfig wlan0 up

4. Check dmesg for firmware loading

[Sun Apr  5 22:37:39 2015] ieee80211 phy0: rt2x00lib_request_firmware: Info - Loading firmware file 'rt2860.bin'
[Sun Apr  5 22:37:39 2015] ieee80211 phy0: rt2x00lib_request_firmware: Info - Firmware detected - version: 0.34

5. Check the interface wlan0

iwconfig wlan0

wlan0     IEEE 802.11bgn  ESSID:off/any  
          Mode:Managed  Access Point: Not-Associated   Tx-Power=20 dBm   
          Retry short limit:7   RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off
          Encryption key:off
          Power Management:off

The rest is common knowledge how to set up wireless in Debian. For example

iwconfig  wlan0 essid myEssid

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bodhi Wrote:
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> @LeggoMyEggo,
>
> It's probably too late for you about the stock
> Wifi. But I have some time to look into this today
> while I open up the PogoPro, and I think I can see
> the the reason there was some difficulty in
> getting the stock wifi card to work. The release
> rootfs Debian-3.17.0-oxnas-tld-1 does not have
> everything ready out of the box to help in setting
> up stock wireless. It's my oversight. Although,
> for users who already has experience in setting up
> wireless, it can be done (nothing to do with the
> kernel).

bodhi, I am pretty sure I loaded firmware-ralink and used that with the RT3090 back at that time. If I recall correctly, it wasn't that the interface didn't show up, it was a problem getting the interface to obtain a dhcp address. Somewhere between versions cfg80211 was added (?) which was one
missing component I think you had mentioned. Was that 3.16? Not sure at this point.

But hey if it works that's great and would make many people happy.

LeggoMyEggo,

> bodhi, I am pretty sure I loaded firmware-ralink
> and used that with the RT3090 back at that time.
> If I recall correctly, it wasn't that the
> interface didn't show up, it was a problem getting
> the interface to obtain a dhcp address. Somewhere
> between versions cfg80211 was added (?) which was
> one
> missing component I think you had mentioned. Was
> that 3.16? Not sure at this point.
>

I see. If you have saved the log, you can check to see if the firmware bin file was loaded? if you used RT3090 I don't think it will work unless it was recompiled on armv5 for this rootfs.

But I do think you've made a good choice, Atheros is a better. I would not want to go back to stock either.

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bodhi Wrote:
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> But I do think you've made a good choice, Atheros
> is a better.

The Wifi card on the Pogoplug Pro is replaceable? Interesting...

grayman4hire Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> bodhi Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > But I do think you've made a good choice,
> Atheros
> > is a better.
>
> The Wifi card on the Pogoplug Pro is replaceable?
> Interesting...

Actually you can put any half length mini pci-e device in the card slot. They make msata disks in that form factor, you can put an additional sata port there (but need to put a hole in the case) and can even use it for additional usb ports. But it's best to serve as wifi card or in my case combo wifi and bluetooth card <<bluetooth is not compiled in the current kernel so it cannot be enabled....yet :). You can pick up a replacement card (I've tried Atheros and Intel) that will do at least 300M for $5.00 or less if you are willing to wait from overseas or get lucky and find someone who just wants to get rid of it.

LeggoMyEggo,

> it's best to serve as wifi card or in my case
> combo wifi and bluetooth card <<bluetooth is not
> compiled in the current kernel so it cannot be
> enabled....yet :).

:) tell Linus to release 4.0 soon.

... Linux-4.0-rc7 was just released, so will be at least another week until Linux-4.0 .

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/06/2015 06:43PM by bodhi.

bodhi Wrote:
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> :) tell Linus to release 4.0 soon.

OK. Uhhhh Hmmm. Mr. Linus dude, er I mean sir - could you please release 4.0 ASAP ? Thank you :)~

@LeggoMyEggo,

Do you happen to have stock u-boot envs saved in a log? if you do please post. Thanks!

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bodhi Wrote:
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> @LeggoMyEggo,
>
> Do you happen to have stock u-boot envs saved in a
> log? if you do please post. Thanks!

If you mean Pogo OS, no unfortunately. Maybe at Arch Linux?

Not a complete, but you can check the revert script for some of the uboot env - http://os.archlinuxarm.org/os/oxnas/

I was hoping that the stock u-boot env was still available via the blparam commands, but it looks like the location is overwritten (versus on the E02 and PPV4). Is it possible to change that in a future release/updated instructions?

@Leggo,

Original Pogo OS envs.

@grayman4hire,

> I was hoping that the stock u-boot env was still
> available via the blparam commands, but it looks
> like the location is overwritten (versus on the
> E02 and PPV4). Is it possible to change that in a
> future release/updated instructions?

Changing the location is too late. But I'll think of something, such as flash it to a different free block.

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Found my stock P22. Here is the Pogoplug OS envs

[root@Pogoplug bin]# ./blparam
bootcmd=run boot_nand
bootdelay=2
baudrate=115200
autoload=n
netmask=255.255.0.0
bootfile="uImage"
kernflmode=s
load_nand=nboot 60500000 0 200000
load_nand2=nboot 60500000 0 800000
boot=bootm 60500000
boot_nand=run load_nand boot || run load_nand2 boot
stdin=serial
stdout=serial
stderr=serial
bootargs=root=ubi0:rootfs ubi.mtd=2,512 rootfstype=ubifs console=ttyS0,115200 elevator=cfq mac_adr=0x00,0x30,0xe0,0x00,0x00,0x01 mem=128M poweroutage=yes
ethaddr=00:25:31:02:AA:AA
cesvcid=8ZCQ8MMGP8UHTUA5EPM2T25XXX
ceboardver=PPV3
serverip=192.168.1.20
ipaddr=192.168.1.122

grayman4hire,

> Found my stock P22. Here is the Pogoplug OS envs

Thanks!

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/07/2015 01:51AM by bodhi.

LeggoMyEggo Wrote:
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> grayman4hire Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > bodhi Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > But I do think you've made a good choice,
> > Atheros
> > > is a better.
> >
> > The Wifi card on the Pogoplug Pro is
> replaceable?
> > Interesting...
>
> Actually you can put any half length mini pci-e
> device in the card slot. They make msata disks in
> that form factor, you can put an additional sata
> port there (but need to put a hole in the case)
> and can even use it for additional usb ports. But
> it's best to serve as wifi card or in my case
> combo wifi and bluetooth card <<bluetooth is not
> compiled in the current kernel so it cannot be
> enabled....yet :). You can pick up a replacement
> card (I've tried Atheros and Intel) that will do
> at least 300M for $5.00 or less if you are willing
> to wait from overseas or get lucky and find
> someone who just wants to get rid of it.

Do you mean that it will work with a card like this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/mSATA-Mini-PCI-e-SATA-SSD-slot-To-7pin-SATA-HDD-Converter-Card-Adapter-Bracket-/171696452322?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27f9e7f2e2

Or put something like this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-Port-Mini-PCI-Express-Internal-SATA-II-Controller-Card-/290677634172?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item43adbcb47c

Thanks

schnee Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> LeggoMyEggo Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > grayman4hire Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > bodhi Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > But I do think you've made a good choice,
> > > Atheros
> > > > is a better.
> > >
> > > The Wifi card on the Pogoplug Pro is
> > replaceable?
> > > Interesting...
> >
> > Actually you can put any half length mini pci-e
> > device in the card slot. They make msata disks
> in
> > that form factor, you can put an additional
> sata
> > port there (but need to put a hole in the case)
> > and can even use it for additional usb ports.
> But
> > it's best to serve as wifi card or in my case
> > combo wifi and bluetooth card <<bluetooth is
> not
> > compiled in the current kernel so it cannot be
> > enabled....yet :). You can pick up a
> replacement
> > card (I've tried Atheros and Intel) that will
> do
> > at least 300M for $5.00 or less if you are
> willing
> > to wait from overseas or get lucky and find
> > someone who just wants to get rid of it.
>
> Do you mean that it will work with a card like
> this:
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/mSATA-Mini-PCI-e-SATA-SSD-
> slot-To-7pin-SATA-HDD-Converter-Card-Adapter-Brack
> et-/171696452322?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27
> f9e7f2e2
>
> Or put something like this:
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-Port-Mini-PCI-Express-In
> ternal-SATA-II-Controller-Card-/290677634172?pt=LH
> _DefaultDomain_0&hash=item43adbcb47c
>
> Thanks

It should work with either. However, some are cheap and flaky so you will have to try to know for sure.

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LeggoMyEggo Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> grayman4hire Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > bodhi Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > But I do think you've made a good choice,
> > Atheros
> > > is a better.
> >
> > The Wifi card on the Pogoplug Pro is
> replaceable?
> > Interesting...
>
> Actually you can put any half length mini pci-e
> device in the card slot. They make msata disks in
> that form factor, you can put an additional sata
> port there (but need to put a hole in the case)
> and can even use it for additional usb ports. But
> it's best to serve as wifi card or in my case
> combo wifi and bluetooth card <<bluetooth is not
> compiled in the current kernel so it cannot be
> enabled....yet :). You can pick up a replacement
> card (I've tried Atheros and Intel) that will do
> at least 300M for $5.00 or less if you are willing
> to wait from overseas or get lucky and find
> someone who just wants to get rid of it.

I opened my Pogoplug Pro and took pictures of the PCIE slot last night. I googled for a photo, but couldn't find one.

I would disagree that the PCIE slot would be best served with a wi-fi card, only because USB Wifi cards are so cheap. I'm thinking a MSATA SSD would be nice (even though you wouldn't be able to boot to it). I'm going to have to test it.

grayman4hire Wrote:
I'm thinking a MSATA SSD would
> be nice (even though you wouldn't be able to boot
> to it). I'm going to have to test it.

Oxnas chip supports two sata interfaces so a msata ssd in the pci-e slot might show up as a drive in u-boot and be bootable. Mind you I've never seen anybody do this but I think it's theoretically possible.

LeggoMyEggo Wrote:
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> grayman4hire Wrote:
> I'm thinking a MSATA SSD would
> > be nice (even though you wouldn't be able to
> boot
> > to it). I'm going to have to test it.
>
> Oxnas chip supports two sata interfaces so a msata
> ssd in the pci-e slot might show up as a drive in
> u-boot and be bootable. Mind you I've never seen
> anybody do this but I think it's theoretically
> possible.

I've got my PCIe dual SATA card delivered recently. Will see if it's going to work even for u-boot to recognize it. It should, but you'd never know there might be a missing line of code somewhere in u-boot :) I have not verified that the PCI driver is configured properly or not. It is different though, SATA vs PCI.

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bodhi Wrote:
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> I've got my PCIe dual SATA card delivered
> recently. Will see if it's going to work even for
> u-boot to recognize it. It should, but you'd
> never know there might be a missing line of code
> somewhere in u-boot :) I have not verified that
> the PCI driver is configured properly or not. It
> is different though, SATA vs PCI.

I had this thought that you could stick a V3/Pro board with a card like you have in a three drive sata enclosure and make a nice homemade NAS out of it. Trouble is finding an enclosure with enough space for the card and then how to restrain it and also have access to the other ports. But to go through that much trouble, you might as well buy a NAS :)

Edit: If you wanted to go "all the way", get one of these :) http://www.ebay.com/itm/111332460382?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/07/2015 06:35PM by LeggoMyEggo.

LeggoMyEggo,

> Edit: If you wanted to go "all the way", get one
> of these :)
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/111332460382?_trksid=p2055
> 119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

:)) that's way overkilled.

The nice thing about the PCIe slot is if you already have a cheap USB Wifi/BT stick, the the slot can be used to connect mSATA, or SATA with SSD installed inside the case. I think it would fit nicely between the case wall and the back of the board. My card won't fit, though (it has perpendicular SATA ports), but it is costs so little for experiement! If I decide to keep it installed, then I would drill/cut the case.

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I just assumed the PCIE wasn't bootable (accessible from uBoot) similar to how the USB3 ports on the PPV4 isn't accessible/bootable.

Side question, when using the internal sata for something like a portable SSD/HD, how do you guys go about powering the drive? I was thinking the USB port should provide enough power, but couldn't find a USB to "SATA Power Connector" cable/adapter.

grayman4hire Wrote:
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> Side question, when using the internal sata for
> something like a portable SSD/HD, how do you guys
> go about powering the drive? I was thinking the
> USB port should provide enough power, but couldn't
> find a USB to "SATA Power Connector"
> cable/adapter.

Get a combo 2.5" esata / usb enclosure and you use usb for power when an esata cable is connected. Added benefit of this type of enclosure, you can also connect (and power) with just USB which is perfect for dual use with Pogoplug Pro / V3. Here is a good example of one, look at one of the "Customer Images" to see the USB power cable, Esata cable and the USB data/power cable it comes with:
http://www.amazon.com/Eagle-Tech--CS2XMESU2-BK-Enclosure-Tool-less/dp/B0029Z9ULE/ref=sr_1_11?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1428452479&sr=1-11&keywords=2.5%22+Esata%2Fusb



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 04/07/2015 07:26PM by LeggoMyEggo.

schnee Wrote:
> After compilation it works fine. I tested with
> running 3 cameras parallel and it worked like
> charm

@Grayman4hire : Your tutorial for mjpg-streamer for Pogoplug did not work on my V3 / Pro (I just tried it). Schnee's did however. Maybe as your PP V3 / Pro tutorials evolve you can add this to them.

@ingmar and others,

Looks like it works fine with a PCIe SATA card in the slot:

root@PogoPro:~# uname -a

Linux PogoPro 3.18.5-oxnas-tld-1 #2 SMP PREEMPT Thu Feb 12 11:17:40 PST 2015 armv6l GNU/Linux

root@PogoPro:~# lspci -vv

00:00.0 SATA controller: ASMedia Technology Inc. ASM1062 Serial ATA Controller (rev 01) (prog-if 01 [AHCI 1.0])
	Subsystem: ASMedia Technology Inc. Device 1060
	Control: I/O- Mem- BusMaster- SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr+ Stepping- SERR+ FastB2B- DisINTx-
	Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
	Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 51
	Region 0: I/O ports at 1020 [disabled] [size=8]
	Region 1: I/O ports at 1030 [disabled] [size=4]
	Region 2: I/O ports at 1028 [disabled] [size=8]
	Region 3: I/O ports at 1034 [disabled] [size=4]
	Region 4: I/O ports at 1000 [disabled] [size=32]
	Region 5: Memory at 48000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [disabled] [size=512]
	[virtual] Expansion ROM at 4a000000 [disabled] [size=64K]
	Capabilities: [50] MSI: Enable- Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit-
		Address: 00000000  Data: 0000
	Capabilities: [78] Power Management version 3
		Flags: PMEClk- DSI- D1- D2- AuxCurrent=0mA PME(D0-,D1-,D2-,D3hot-,D3cold-)
		Status: D0 NoSoftRst- PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=0 PME-
	Capabilities: [80] Express (v2) Legacy Endpoint, MSI 00
		DevCap:	MaxPayload 512 bytes, PhantFunc 0, Latency L0s <1us, L1 <8us
			ExtTag- AttnBtn- AttnInd- PwrInd- RBE+ FLReset-
		DevCtl:	Report errors: Correctable- Non-Fatal- Fatal- Unsupported-
			RlxdOrd+ ExtTag- PhantFunc- AuxPwr- NoSnoop+
			MaxPayload 128 bytes, MaxReadReq 512 bytes
		DevSta:	CorrErr- UncorrErr- FatalErr- UnsuppReq- AuxPwr- TransPend-
		LnkCap:	Port #1, Speed 5GT/s, Width x1, ASPM not supported, Exit Latency L0s <512ns, L1 <2us
			ClockPM- Surprise- LLActRep- BwNot-
		LnkCtl:	ASPM Disabled; RCB 64 bytes Disabled- CommClk-
			ExtSynch- ClockPM- AutWidDis- BWInt- AutBWInt-
		LnkSta:	Speed 2.5GT/s, Width x1, TrErr- Train- SlotClk+ DLActive- BWMgmt- ABWMgmt-
		DevCap2: Completion Timeout: Range ABC, TimeoutDis+, LTR-, OBFF Not Supported
		DevCtl2: Completion Timeout: 50us to 50ms, TimeoutDis-, LTR-, OBFF Disabled
		LnkCtl2: Target Link Speed: 5GT/s, EnterCompliance- SpeedDis-
			 Transmit Margin: Normal Operating Range, EnterModifiedCompliance- ComplianceSOS-
			 Compliance De-emphasis: -6dB
		LnkSta2: Current De-emphasis Level: -3.5dB, EqualizationComplete-, EqualizationPhase1-
			 EqualizationPhase2-, EqualizationPhase3-, LinkEqualizationRequest-
	Capabilities: [100 v1] Virtual Channel
		Caps:	LPEVC=0 RefClk=100ns PATEntryBits=1
		Arb:	Fixed- WRR32- WRR64- WRR128-
		Ctrl:	ArbSelect=Fixed
		Status:	InProgress-
		VC0:	Caps:	PATOffset=00 MaxTimeSlots=1 RejSnoopTrans-
			Arb:	Fixed- WRR32- WRR64- WRR128- TWRR128- WRR256-
			Ctrl:	Enable+ ID=0 ArbSelect=Fixed TC/VC=ff
			Status:	NegoPending- InProgress-

Now the harder part is to see if an actual eSATA/SATA hard disk will be populated!

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Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 04/07/2015 09:10PM by bodhi.

@ingmar,

PCIe SATA will need a new kernel build to work. Kernell 3.18.5-oxnas-tld-1 does not have the driver. My newly built new kernel (4.0-rc7) version does detect and identify the drive correctly. However, I'm having exception that could be either cable or power problem (I'm drawing from the USB port).

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LeggoMyEggo Wrote:
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> schnee Wrote:
> > After compilation it works fine. I tested with
> > running 3 cameras parallel and it worked like
> > charm
>
> @Grayman4hire : Your tutorial for mjpg-streamer
> for Pogoplug did not work on my V3 / Pro (I just
> tried it). Schnee's did however. Maybe as your
> PP V3 / Pro tutorials evolve you can add this to
> them.

Thanks for letting me know. I'll try the version schnee posted and update as appropriate.

@bodhi
do you have a link you could share for the minipcie to sata port, you found to work

and as an aside - i wonder if one of those minipcie to pcie adaptors with a graphics card in it would work, could then be another option for adding a display to the plugs ;-))

@Gravelrash,

My saved link is dead. The store I bought from was not an eletronics store. I think they just happened to have this card at one point.

You coud google for the ASmedia ASM1062. This specific card is 6Gbs, so it's a shame that I can't use it. I'm having problem with it that I suspect that was the reason why it was so cheap ;) so even if they are still selling this, I would not recommend it. It's worth the money for experiment to find out if the kernel/hardware will work. And I think most definitely that PCIe will work with a good card.

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Gravelrash Wrote:
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> @bodhi
> do you have a link you could share for the
> minipcie to sata port, you found to work

Lots of choices here, even a couple RAID cards: http://www.microsatacables.com/ . If you don't find what you want there, you probably are not going to :)



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